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| Quote ="PopTart"In my opinion, Tim Smith is one of if not the best scrum half in the league.
Certainly the best at what he does.
Of course other teams want him. That's why he is under contract with us.
He could have got more money in Oz, even playing for a lower level team but he decided to come here to give his career a chance and a boost.
I think he has succeeded in doing that.
So, I can't see him just jumping for money.
Saying that....everybody has a price, but if he has, we need a fee that will represent his value to us, not his value to Salford.
I would want enough money to be able to go buy Danny Brough or Rob Burrow, not just enough to pay some wages, but enough to buy out contracts.
So in my opinion, MK doesn't have that money....and if he does, he might as well just go buy Danny Brough.'"
All very understandable, but I suspect any transfer fee wouldn't be going on wages, let alone buying out contracts.
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| Quote ="PopTart"In my opinion, Tim Smith is one of if not the best scrum half in the league.
Certainly the best at what he does.
Of course other teams want him. That's why he is under contract with us.
He could have got more money in Oz, even playing for a lower level team but he decided to come here to give his career a chance and a boost.
I think he has succeeded in doing that.
So, I can't see him just jumping for money.
Saying that....everybody has a price, but if he has, we need a fee that will represent his value to us, not his value to Salford.
I would want enough money to be able to go buy Danny Brough or Rob Burrow, not just enough to pay some wages, but enough to buy out contracts.
So in my opinion, MK doesn't have that money....and if he does, he might as well just go buy Danny Brough.'"
I think you are over-simplifying the process.
For one thing, your valuation of Smith will be very different from your Clubs valuation of him. RL Clubs are not exactly awash with money right now. If a Club came in and offered a decent sum the Club would have to consider it. That sum could very well be lower than what you imagine for a multitude of reasons.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I'd be inclined to believe you on this score. The Salford poster who came out with this one has suddenly appeared out of nowhere and been stirring stuff on the Salford board. He may be correct and that's fine, but he just seems to want to rub people up the wrong way.'"
Spot on.
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| Also with the retention of Paul Sykes I doubt we'd be keeping him if we were going to let Timmy go. But Tim and Chase would be a cracking partnership IMO.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I think you are over-simplifying the process.
For one thing, your valuation of Smith will be very different from your Clubs valuation of him. RL Clubs are not exactly awash with money right now. If a Club came in and offered a decent sum the Club would have to consider it. That sum could very well be lower than what you imagine for a multitude of reasons.'"
I'm suggesting that is what it should be.
Whetehr we settle for less is another issue and your point is perfectly valid......I just hope it doesn't happen
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| Quote ="Theboyem"He signed a new deal earlier this year which will have nullified his exemption I would of thought.
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22314442[/url'"
Yes, but that says he has an extension until 2015. His original contact was 3 years starting 2012, so it looks like next season will still be in the first post-Crusaders contract he signed.
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| You might not have to worry about Smith joining Salford as a few rows from me at the match tonight was Jarrod Sammut in hospitality, he could be the player we were talking to? Makes sense really as Bradford look to be in abit of financial trouble again and Noble coached him at the Celtic Crusaders.
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| If Tim Smith goes, he goes...nothing we can do about it. What id be screaming about is if we got a cash sum for him, saved on what is probably a 75k+ wage, and didnt reinvest it in another quality half back....as a pose to pocketing the majority of the cash and either buying someone cheap or giving someone like lee smith the 7 shirt.
How we manage the loss of our top players is important to me.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"If Tim Smith goes, he goes...nothing we can do about it. What id be screaming about is if we got a cash sum for him, saved on what is probably a 75k+ wage, and didnt reinvest it in another quality half back....as a pose to pocketing the majority of the cash and either buying someone cheap or giving someone like lee smith the 7 shirt.
How we manage the loss of our top players is important to me.'"
How about a World Cup winning halfback, although better known as a hooker and a little long in the tooth.
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| Quote ="1873"How about a World Cup winning halfback, although better known as a hooker and a little long in the tooth.'"
Nathan Fien?
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Nathan Fien?'"
Yes, that's the 2nd part of the 'story' I was told
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"You might not have to worry about Smith joining Salford as a few rows from me at the match tonight was Jarrod Sammut in hospitality, he could be the player we were talking to? Makes sense really as Bradford look to be in abit of financial trouble again and Noble coached him at the Celtic Crusaders.'"
Even Moley reporting this now, unless you told him?
Could be they changed tack after our demands, or feel Bfd are more in need of the money and can be more easily leveraged?
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| Quote ="1873"Even Moley reporting this now, unless you told him?
Could be they changed tack after our demands, or feel Bfd are more in need of the money and can be more easily leveraged?'"
Ye you could be right. Plus Sammut played under noble at crusaders.
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| Quote ="1873"Even Moley reporting this now, unless you told him?
Could be they changed tack after our demands, or feel Bfd are more in need of the money and can be more easily leveraged?'"
Or maybe we told Salford that he wasn't for sale.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Or maybe we told Salford that he wasn't for sale.'"
That can't be right, everyone knows we need the cash....
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| Tim Smith is going nowhere! Some fans should really think before slamming AG, JE etc. How many bids under the new regime have we accepted for players? How many players under the new regime have we sold?
For god sake, have a little faith in those in charge and don't press the self destruction button ever time one of our players is linked with a move away.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"That can't be right, everyone knows we need the cash....'"
How does everybody know ? Most of the talk of us needing cash has come from these boards. I've no doubt that thing are difficult financially and cash flow is difficult but we will prevail.
We've just resigned Danny Kirmond, Paul Sykes and are looking to extend the deals with Lee Smith and Ali. Chris Tuscon has signed for next year but if we believe what we read on this board in particular we are doomed.
Stop believing the negative publicity some of which is started by people who only wish harm to this Club and get behind the Club.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Tim Smith is going nowhere! Some fans should really think before slamming AG, JE etc. How many bids under the new regime have we accepted for players? How many players under the new regime have we sold?
For god sake, have a little faith in those in charge and don't press the self destruction button ever time one of our players is linked with a move away.'"
This.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"How does everybody know ? Most of the talk of us needing cash has come from these boards. '"
I think that was what he was alluding to ....
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I think that was what he was alluding to ....'"
If he was then I'm sorry but there is so much doom and gloom on here I'm finding it difficult to separate negativity from positivity and sarcasm.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"If he was then I'm sorry but there is so much doom and gloom on here I'm finding it difficult to separate negativity from positivity and sarcasm.'"
I know what you mean. No worries
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"If he was then I'm sorry but there is so much doom and gloom on here I'm finding it difficult to separate negativity from positivity and sarcasm.'"
Haha. Not to worry. I thought the ..... Gave it away though!
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Haha. Not to worry. I thought the ..... Gave it away though!'"
Yeah, should have spotted the .......... but the negativity on these boards is brassing me off. Of course fans have a right to question but we seem to believe any old rumour that gets posted on here.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Yeah, should have spotted the .......... but the negativity on these boards is brassing me off. Of course fans have a right to question but we seem to believe any old rumour that gets posted on here.'"
Indeed they do SC. Thats life 'eh?
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| 5 Pages for a none starter it seems.
Got told this morning he (Tim Smith) as signed for Cas by a bloke who lives near Rangi Chase, i told him thats not happening but he insisted on it being true.
Still if people want to beleive it, its up to them.
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