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| Quote ="mwildcats"To the OP - Rubbish? Absolute BS..
Yes we dropped too much ball.. but the effort was incredible.
There has been plenty of rubbish performance tonight was not one of them'"
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Agar's decisions tonight to play washbrook at 6 and Trout in the second row were bizarre. I think Trout gives 100% but he is not super league standard unfortunately. Washbrook at 6 over Goulding/Wildie is just ridiculous. I can't defend those kinds of decisions. That said, we were a few individual errors off winning while playing rubbish again. Can't fault the defence but once again it was down to individual errors. 2 points lost on reflection.'"
I can't agree about trout giving 100% , to me he looks lazy and like he wants to walk instead of run. I would just like to see more energy from him.
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| Effort only gets you so far
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"I can't agree about trout giving 100% , to me he looks lazy and like he wants to walk instead of run. I would just like to see more energy from him.'"
Tbf yeah. When you compare the way an Amor or an Annakin or an Aiton runs the ball in to Trout you can see the difference in conviction.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Gutted. Thought we deserved a point at least. Would have been good to get in to the 8'"
I've not given up hope! We need to win on Friday though, which judging on last nights game doesn't seem unrealistic.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"We didn't give ourselves a chance tonight, Leeds should have won by distance, you can't win games by continually turning the ball over in your own half. Silly penalties, lost ball under no pressure, having little idea in attack... The list goes on!
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What s silly over reaction.
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| Our ball handling has been shocking for the last 3/4 games, but fortunately for us we've managed to dig ourselves out of holes and win those matches. Last night we faced much improved opponents and we just couldn't do it.
The defence was fantastic, as was the effort but you cannot give up as much ball as we did and expect to beat sides either in the top 8 or vying for it.
We didn't lose because Collis or Sykes were injured, or Washbrook was at 6. We simply lost because we kept knocking on. I think we only had 5 sets where we got into Leeds' 20m.
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| Well, it's normally me posting the criticisms and getting a few telling me to belt up. I couldn't go and have loads of work on so only saw brief score flashes...thought we must have had a good game. How wrong can you be it seems? I was talking to a mate in Beverley tonight who follows the game less closely than he used to and he asked me how we were doing. I said, it's frustrating. In flashes, we look like a side who could really be a top 6 side if only we could cut out the silly errors, forced passes, daft pens, over-running the ball. I've said it before, we lack composure. We play RL like a teenage boy getting his hands on his first girlfriend. If only we could cool down! It's been a common theme alll the time Agar has been in charge. How to soleveit?????
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"First half he was playing well - second half it got worse and worse for him.'"
Sadly, I agree, he is a liability. The 'He used to do that for us' song at Hull KR when he dopped yet another kick, says it all. He is defensively inept, as much as I like his attack play, running the ball in and finishing...all top notch but in defence it is frightening to see as the game gets near him if there is any pressure on the line
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Our ball handling has been shocking for the last 3/4 games, but fortunately for us we've managed to dig ourselves out of holes and win those matches. Last night we faced much improved opponents and we just couldn't do it.
The defence was fantastic, as was the effort but you cannot give up as much ball as we did and expect to beat sides either in the top 8 or vying for it.
We didn't lose because Collis or Sykes were injured, or Washbrook was at 6. We simply lost because we kept knocking on. I think we only had 5 sets where we got into Leeds' 20m.'"
It's been shocking for most of the season
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| If sinfield is still out I would hope that we target peacock heavily at belle vue.
The amount of times peacock was first reciever with burrows running behind waiting for a pass from peacock was apparent for all to see and allowed burrows space to run laterally with space in front of him.
If peacock is again the first reciever I'd hope we get in his face so that he has no or less time to pass to burrows or we have a player designated to stop burrows lateral runs. Then again that's a tricky one as we did defend well and maybe we would be playing into burrows hands by having a player trying to cut him off so he can step inside.
Be interesting to see if our structure is tweaked to try and address this or remains with hopefully the same attitude and effort applied in defence but more composure in attack.
Looking forward to the game this Friday. Should be a cracker
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If sinfield is still out I would hope that we target peacock heavily at belle vue.
The amount of times peacock was first reciever with burrows running behind waiting for a pass from peacock was apparent for all to see and allowed burrows space to run laterally with space in front of him.
If peacock is again the first reciever I'd hope we get in his face so that he has no or less time to pass to burrows or we have a player designated to stop burrows lateral runs. Then again that's a tricky one as we did defend well and maybe we would be playing into burrows hands by having a player trying to cut him off so he can step inside.
Be interesting to see if our structure is tweaked to try and address this or remains with hopefully the same attitude and effort applied in defence but more composure in attack.
Looking forward to the game this Friday. Should be a cracker'"
We didn't finish in the top 6 in 2005!
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| Thought we played worse against Widnes and won. C'est la vie. Never happy to lose, but can't say they didn't give it 100%.
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| seems odd that we go to the home of the back-to back superleague champions and lose by two points... and is a game, in which, many believe victory was possible.
yet this is described as rubbish....
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Well, it's normally me posting the criticisms and getting a few telling me to belt up. I couldn't go and have loads of work on so only saw brief score flashes...thought we must have had a good game. How wrong can you be it seems? I was talking to a mate in Beverley tonight who follows the game less closely than he used to and he asked me how we were doing. I said, it's frustrating. In flashes, we look like a side who could really be a top 6 side if only we could cut out the silly errors, forced passes, daft pens, over-running the ball. I've said it before, we lack composure. We play RL like a teenage boy getting his hands on his first girlfriend. If only we could cool down! It's been a common theme alll the time Agar has been in charge. How to soleveit?????'"
why comment on a game you didn't go to??? do you know what happened? field position etc?? NO! =#FF0000Give over its not needed
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| Quote ="tamargrace"why comment on a game you didn't go to??? do you know what happened? field position etc?? NO! =#FF0000REMOVED!!!'"
Do you normally get your own way by using threats and aggresive behaviour?
I think some time on the naughty step to think about what you say is in order!!!
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| bloody hell fellas, you played the SL champions away and lost by 2
I think I've read the phrase "not good enough" about 3453480106130610150948097 times now!
whether leeds SHOULD have put the game to bed or not, I have absolutely no doubt they were trying to, your guys clearly didn't let them.
your team won't be training practising to catch the bal this week you know,. Basic errors just happen and it'll be frustrating for everyone. But clearly they don't have to play exceptionally to beat Leeds, so same again next week and the ball surely will stick more
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"bloody hell fellas, you played the SL champions away and lost by 2
I think I've read the phrase "not good enough" about 3453480106130610150948097 times now!
whether leeds SHOULD have put the game to bed or not, I have absolutely no doubt they were trying to, your guys clearly didn't let them.
your team won't be training practising to catch the bal this week you know,. Basic errors just happen and it'll be frustrating for everyone. But clearly they don't have to play exceptionally to beat Leeds, so same again next week and the ball surely will stick more'"
This is true, but what do you think the Leeds coaching staff will say this week? "Ok lads, same rubbish against Trinity next time, please!!!". Do you think for one second that both teams will serve up the same rubbish? Expect a better game. Trinity should be in the top 8, I think they are a good team and quite capable of beating us.
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| exactly what I'm saying mate, Wakefield were only poor because of basic errors - they won't be practising catching the ball through this week.
Leeds however will obviously need to work on some different plays than the ones they used on Friday as they didn't break wakefield down often enough to kill the game.
My point is that Leeds will be the ones having to get things right this week not wakefield, even though leeds won. ...because wakefield defended very well despite dropping the ball a lot, and still only lost by two.
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| Quote ="tamargrace"why comment on a game you didn't go to??? do you know what happened? field position etc?? NO! =#FF0000Give over its not needed
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Free world pal. Our errors have been regretably predictable all season. You don't have to be there. If you want to be dewy eyed and happy clappy, go fo it. I was merely pointing out that brainfarts and knock ons have blighted a side that actually shows signs of being a good team
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| Didn't go to Leeds on Friday, but got to agree with Dave@Cas1990. A few years ago, Leeds could have played rubbish and still beat us by 20. It's frustrating to lose by 2, but Leeds have got that knack of pulling the rabbit out of the hat. They have won some Grand Finals from fifth!!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Didn't go to Leeds on Friday, but got to agree with Dave@Cas1990. A few years ago, Leeds could have played rubbish and still beat us by 20. It's frustrating to lose by 2, but Leeds have got that knack of pulling the rabbit out of the hat. They have won some Grand Finals from fifth!!'"
Really?? I'm surprised nobody ever mentions this fact.
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| Can't believe some of the rubbish on here! Our boys put the effort in, came within coowee of winning away at Leeds and some of you think that is rubbish!!!
I think some people have lost perspective - it was a good, entertaining, full-blooded game played in a great atmosphere, but we lost. Live with it and hope for as good a game with a better result at BV!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"got to agree with Dave@Cas1990. quote
there's a lot of that going round
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| It's Dave@Wakey1990, he just hasn't got round to the name change.
I hope we win on Friday and the whether is wonderful whats the maximum capacity in the stadium can't remember off the top of my head.
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