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| why all the hate for Reece Lyne?
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| Tauti not in the 19 man. Shame. Cowling is brilliant but I do feel sorry for him he gets shoved in against the big teams and big games and looks excellent. its beyond me why we didn't give him some run outs instead of Lynn.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Think I'd have to go with:
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Fox
Lyne
Mariano
Cockayne
L. Smith
T. Smith
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Aiton
Amor
Lauitiiti
Kirmond
Washbrook
Raleigh
Wilkes
Wildie
Annakin
Only other possibility for me is Wildie at 6, L.Smith in Centre and Trout onto bench with Lyne missing out.'"
Lee Smith plays better at centre and try as he might he's no stand off. We need to keep some structure if we can.
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| Hall is a quality player but he isn't nowhere near playing as good as he can for the past few months, he has only scored a couple of trys? His is a threat in the air however I don't think the halves; Sutcliffe and Burrow are not as good as Sinfield kicking from the hand (from what I have seen which isn't a lot).
If our forwards get on the front foot and we close down their halfbacks then we only have to worry about the back 5 who can make something from nothing.
I'm not too bothered if we don't get the win from the game on Friday however I will be slightly disappointed if we don't take the 2 points at our place.
I don't really understand the critics of Lyne because he doesn't really do much wrong, yes he kind off kills attacking play with ball in hand but it's something he can learn - get back to his early season form and it was the reason why Ben Cockayne was putting trys away for fun.
I think Tautai might be fit for next week for the home game which will be a huge boost for the team with a little bit more go forward and offload game.
Anyone know the details of Collis' injury and how long he'll be out for? I heard a torn hamstring but not sure its as bad as that. I guess he could do with an extra week off to just make sure anyway, if he does return against Leeds at home then it'll be another big boost for the lads.
Probably Goulding will be coming off the bench I most likely expect Wildie to be at stand-off (if not Lee Smith which I want him to stay in the centres.)
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"No Danny /Lucas or Liam . That just tells me how good the 1873 scheme is , it’s a wonder RFA hasn’t found a place for Molloy'"
I dont think these lads were part of 1873 its more the u16's at the moment.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I would give Goulding a game rather than having Lyne out against Watkins or Moon.'"
Why Goulding, he can't even get a game at Dewsbury after Donny showed him the door - his dad was good don't assume it's been passed on - the lad will be out of the game let alone the club unless he makes a huge improvement.
Do your research Wilzay old boy and don't pick the team please
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Tauti not in the 19 man. Shame. Cowling is brilliant but I do feel sorry for him he gets shoved in against the big teams and big games and looks excellent. its beyond me why we didn't give him some run outs instead of Lynn.'"
Are you bi-polar?
Cowling has a lot of promise but brilliant - since when.
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| Think the 17 will be...
Mathers
Fox
L.Smith
Mariano
Cockayne
Washbrook
T.Smith
Poore
Aiton
Amor
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Lauitiiti
Kirmond
Subs. Wilkes, Raleigh, Wildie and Trout. Need an experienced SL player at 6 and Washbrook did ok the other week. Too short in centres to move L.Smith over and Wildie/Goulding not up to it.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Think the 17 will be...
Mathers
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L.Smith
Mariano
Cockayne
Washbrook
T.Smith
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Amor
Annakin
Lauitiiti
Kirmond
Subs. Wilkes, Raleigh, Wildie and Trout. Need an experienced SL player at 6 and Washbrook did ok the other week. Too short in centres to move L.Smith over and Wildie/Goulding not up to it.'"
For me its definitely a no to Washbrook at 6, however I think you are right that Agar will select him there. Swap Annakin and Kirmond around and I think you have it.
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| I suppose washbrook may settle at 6 for first quarter to soak up some mid field tackling the matyne we will see Goulding when Leeds starting props have had their stint.
Be interesting to see how agar plays this one.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I suppose washbrook may settle at 6 for first quarter to soak up some mid field tackling the matyne we will see Goulding when Leeds starting props have had their stint.
Be interesting to see how [u*Tim Smith*[/u plays this one.'"
Slightly nervous on if he'll perform or not having pressure being the only one who will probably kicking - unless Goulding comes on from the bench if hes picked there. Also maybe Wildie could do a stint in the halves?
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| Four observations......
Collis is a big miss
We're light at half back
It would have been a bonus if Tautai was available
Odds are against us and we'll be second favorites....which is when we have a nack of causing an upset.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"icon_ask.gif
Slightly nervous on if he'll perform or not having pressure being the only one who will probably kicking - unless Goulding comes on from the bench if hes picked there. [urlAlso maybe Wildie could do a stint in the halves[/url?'"
That's ok short term, but for the good of Wildie and Wakefield in the long run Wildie needs to pick a position and master it before swapping and shuffling him around.
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Slightly nervous on if he'll perform or not having pressure being the only one who will probably kicking - unless Goulding comes on from the bench if hes picked there. Also maybe Wildie could do a stint in the halves?'"
Trojan and Dreadnought - please listen to me!
Goulding is nowhere near SL standard and although Agar doesn't talk to me about selections I would be gobsmacked if he got a game - I reckon Agar would select himself first.
Ignore the name and you have as far as I've seen a nothing player - you may as well play Ben Shulver at 6 you'd fair no worse.
FWIW Kay is a far better proposition.
I pray Agar feels the same as me
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Sorry boss, only going off what I've been told that Rich wants to give Goulding some first team around this time of the season. I do like Kaye I wonder why he hasn't been selected?'"
It's the centre position we need to cover, though, so why Cowling hasn't been called up into the squad I don't know. Goulding for me would be at best a bit of an Isaac John, and leave Smith looking after the young'un rather than being allowed to do what he does best. All based on limited observations, though, so I'll bow to the experts on this one.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I would give Goulding a game rather than having Lyne out against Watkins or Moon.'"
I certainly wouldn't.
Both Kay & Cowling have been playing excellent rugby for the Don's this year. Kay had a good game at SO the other day in Cookes absence. Would be good to see a bit more of either tbh.
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| The thing is though guys Kay and Cowling are not in the squad so no point complaining when they aren't in the 19 man named squad.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"The thing is though guys Kay and Cowling are not in the squad so no point complaining when they aren't in the 19 man named squad.'"
It's not a complaint so much as a wondering why. If Goulding plays, and plays a blinder, I'll be more than happy. Just can't see why this would be the case, given he only made the bench for Dewsbury, unless Glen was asked to hold him back?
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"The thing is though guys Kay and Cowling are not in the squad so no point complaining when they aren't in the 19 man named squad.'"
Exactly. And with Goulding in the 19 wouldn't it be better to use a natural halfback than someone like Washbrook at 6?
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"The thing is though guys Kay and Cowling are not in the squad so no point complaining when they aren't in the 19 man named squad.'"
I'm not complaining, I just know how they've been playing this year and thought I'd pass it on and like I said before it would be good to see them get a game to judge them. You also mentioned Kay yourself.
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| Im not specifically aiming it at anyone and yes I did mention Kay as a good player however hes not the squad therefor wont be playing. Goulding isnt in the squad for a laugh - never seen him play personally, I hope he plays well though.
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| Quote ="vastman"Are you bi-polar?
Cowling has a lot of promise but brilliant - since when.'"
A young lad was thrown in at the deep end last year he was fantastic against st Helens his tackle created the drop goal we won from. You are very quick to jump the gun, you probably weren't at the games! He has showed more promise than Lynn in the first team that's for sure.
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| Come on Vasty we all know NGB4C knows best - dont question the guy.
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| Quote ="vastman"Trojan and Dreadnought - please listen to me!
Goulding is nowhere near SL standard and although Agar doesn't talk to me about selections I would be gobsmacked if he got a game - I reckon Agar would select himself first.
Ignore the name and you have as far as I've seen a nothing player - you may as well play Ben Shulver at 6 you'd fair no worse.
FWIW Kay is a far better proposition.
I pray Agar feels the same as me
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I agree Kay has been the better showing of the two on dual reg reading the reports and watching sons highlights. But, he isn't in the squad so in just working around the 19 man squad mate that's all.
Who ever dons the shirt need to give their all and try and take Leeds down. This is a good opportunity to take them. They will be favourites but our forwards look to be the stronger set. Just need to come up with the goods on Friday again.
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