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| Can't believe what I'm reading here FFS....
We've just gone to Hull in a high pressure game which both teams were desperate to win.....that scenario in itself created a huge pressure environment......as Agar said after it was a damp pitch with long grass....it was a slow, scrappy game that probably didn't suit us......for periods in the 2nd half when we were able to speed the play the ball up I thought we looked much the better side and made easily the better yardage....
Tim Smith has been a bit off his game for a while....there's been a slight improvement game to game since Sykes came back from injury as it takes the pressure off him a bit......at the end of the day though he came up with two MASSIVE plays at crucial parts in the game.....as confidence continues to grow throughout the side with wins totting up, he will only start playing better....
At the end of the day though it was a fantastic team effort to come away with the two points....we ground it out with heroic performances....none more so than Danny Kirmond, who once again ran his blood to water.....an absolutely terrific captain's knock, once again.....and just goes to show what a truly abysmal decision it was that he was overlooked for England selection.....
Gentle talked Hull up pre game......it was the strongest squad he had to choose from since he's been there....it was their best build up to a game in training...etc...etc.....
We went there and did the job.....came away with a VITAL two points....
The rollercoaster rides on....top effort boys!!
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| Only Wigan, Warrington, Hull K R and us have won at KC this year!
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| Quote ="PopTart"Only Wigan, Warrington, Hull K R and us have won at KC this year!'"
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| Downside is poore likely to be banned for a couple of games. They said before game he has given away more penalties than anyone in SL and he didn't disappoint today. It's a shame cos the rest of his game is decent
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I must have been watching a different game tonight. Had a very good game in my opinion.'"
Lee Smith good in attack poor in try line defence with missed tackle on Crook. Forgiven for that winning drop goal though.
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| Quote ="dragon13"Lee smith is a worst player on pitch a total waste of space'"
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Downside is poore likely to be banned for a couple of games. They said before game he has given away more penalties than anyone in SL and he didn't disappoint today. It's a shame cos the rest of his game is decent'"
Tautai has said he might be back next week but definitely for the Leeds game.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Downside is poore likely to be banned for a couple of games. They said before game he has given away more penalties than anyone in SL and he didn't disappoint today. It's a shame cos the rest of his game is decent'"
Think his card has been marked to be honest - he's a big presence on the field anyway, has a rep from oz, sent off twice for punching (once on his debut) - he's not sneaking under any radars tbh and he needs to sort that out. I can forgive him the odd punch, but the cheap holding down penalties have got to go.
As you say though, if he can cut that out, then he will be a massive asset to the team.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Surprise surprise. Going went tough and Frankie went missing. That's the reason Tuson is coming.'"
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| He definitely has form for it
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| Quote ="upthecats"Can't believe what I'm reading here FFS....
We've just gone to Hull in a high pressure game which both teams were desperate to win.....that scenario in itself created a huge pressure environment......as Agar said after it was a damp pitch with long grass....it was a slow, scrappy game that probably didn't suit us......for periods in the 2nd half when we were able to speed the play the ball up I thought we looked much the better side and made easily the better yardage....
Tim Smith has been a bit off his game for a while....there's been a slight improvement game to game since Sykes came back from injury as it takes the pressure off him a bit......at the end of the day though he came up with two MASSIVE plays at crucial parts in the game.....as confidence continues to grow throughout the side with wins totting up, he will only start playing better....
At the end of the day though it was a fantastic team effort to come away with the two points....we ground it out with heroic performances....none more so than Danny Kirmond, who once again ran his blood to water.....an absolutely terrific captain's knock, once again.....and just goes to show what a truly abysmal decision it was that he was overlooked for England selection.....
Look...we all support the same side so it aint a battle. Long grass?? We have a very familiar and very predictable penchant to mistakes at key points in games. The same players make the same errors over and over again... but most of them do some great stuff too. For the most part we were dumb toninght but equally very brave and commited. I'm not rubbishing them...far from it. Great effort, but as the sky team quoting Agar at half time said, 10/10 for effort, 3/10 for execution, though by the end I think that went up to 5, and fair play to Smith, some ghastly plays on occasion but that 40/20 turned the match...thats Tim!
Gentle talked Hull up pre game......it was the strongest squad he had to choose from since he's been there....it was their best build up to a game in training...etc...etc.....
We went there and did the job.....came away with a VITAL two points....
The rollercoaster rides on....top effort boys!!'"
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| Quote ="upthecats"Can't believe what I'm reading here FFS....
We've just gone to Hull in a high pressure game which both teams were desperate to win.....that scenario in itself created a huge pressure environment......as Agar said after it was a damp pitch with long grass....it was a slow, scrappy game that probably didn't suit us......for periods in the 2nd half when we were able to speed the play the ball up I thought we looked much the better side and made easily the better yardage....
Tim Smith has been a bit off his game for a while....there's been a slight improvement game to game since Sykes came back from injury as it takes the pressure off him a bit......at the end of the day though he came up with two MASSIVE plays at crucial parts in the game.....as confidence continues to grow throughout the side with wins totting up, he will only start playing better....
At the end of the day though it was a fantastic team effort to come away with the two points....we ground it out with heroic performances....none more so than Danny Kirmond, who once again ran his blood to water.....an absolutely terrific captain's knock, once again.....and just goes to show what a truly abysmal decision it was that he was overlooked for England selection.....
Gentle talked Hull up pre game......it was the strongest squad he had to choose from since he's been there....it was their best build up to a game in training...etc...etc.....
We went there and did the job.....came away with a VITAL two points....
The rollercoaster rides on....top effort boys!!'"
Not much more to say.
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| No intent to injure looked worse than it was, tackle on Ali was a lot worse last week. Did the London player receive a ban? However his current reputation in the game will see him get one game I think.
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| scrappiest game I've seen in ages but I take every game like that if we gain the win
Kirmond what a player MOM for me too
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Think his card has been marked to be honest - he's a big presence on the field anyway, has a rep from oz, sent off twice for punching (once on his debut) - he's not sneaking under any radars tbh and he needs to sort that out. I can forgive him the odd punch, but the cheap holding down penalties have got to go.
As you say though, if he can cut that out, then he will be a massive asset to the team.'"
Poore..loads of effort. Thick as a brick. We don't need players like this with such a lack of disciplne. It's a long term Wakefield problem and he's is a bad addition to it. I would have no worries seeing him depart
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Poore..loads of effort. Thick as a brick. We don't need players like this with such a lack of disciplne. It's a long term Wakefield problem and he's is a bad addition to it. I would have no worries seeing him depart'"
Some people don't realize what contribution players such as Poore has on teams. Yes he gives a few penalties but he's just what we needed - someone to stand up for himself and set the pace in the engine room for the other forwards. Something he does perfectly IMO.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Poore..loads of effort. Thick as a brick. We don't need players like this with such a lack of disciplne. It's a long term Wakefield problem and he's is a bad addition to it. I would have no worries seeing him depart'"
Don't agree one bit. With Amor he's been our best Prop all season. Sure he can give the odd penalty but he makes big meters for us, never misses a tackle and it takes a lot to bring him down, which in turn tires the opposition out. He's a proper old school prop and has been a huge asset to our side imo.
Also he comes across as anything but thick, especially for an Ozzie.
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| Just look at when we finished 5th in superleague we had Watene and Elima and the give penalties for fun. It's how you manage it.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Some people don't realize what contribution players such as Poore has on teams. Yes he gives a few penalties but he's just what we needed - someone to stand up for himself and set the pace in the engine room for the other forwards. Something he does perfectly IMO.'"
Got himself sent off in his friendly debut. Gives away countless pens for tackle infringements. The dump tackle was red mist idiotic. Might have got sent off. Sorry, yes he has fire but uncontrolled..it's all part of why we play as we do. OK we won. OK say I'm negative. I'm delighted we wom. I'm actually laughing at how crazy we are in a way. We aint boring and I admire the effort a lot, and Poore has guts no doubt..but heart or head? If we are to progress we need to use our heads a bit more.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Got himself sent off in his friendly debut. Gives away countless pens for tackle infringements. The dump tackle was red mist idiotic. Might have got sent off. Sorry, yes he has fire but uncontrolled..it's all part of why we play as we do. OK we won. OK say I'm negative. I'm delighted we wom. I'm actually laughing at how crazy we are in a way. We aint boring and I admire the effort a lot, and Poore has guts no doubt..but heart or head? If we are to progress we need to use our heads a bit more.'"
Right Poore has come from the NRL where the refs are alot more lenient and let the game flow, they dont send people off for punching they put it on report OR give them 10. This is how games should be refereed however its not and Poore will adapt to the english version of the game as the more he plays.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat":3vhz4z2wGot himself sent off in his friendly debut. Gives away countless pens for tackle infringements. The dump tackle was red mist idiotic. Might have got sent off. Sorry, yes he has fire but uncontrolled..it's all part of why we play as we do. OK we won. OK say I'm negative. I'm delighted we wom. I'm actually laughing at how crazy we are in a way. We aint boring and I admire the effort a lot, and Poore has guts no doubt..but heart or head? If we are to progress we need to use our heads a bit more.'" :3vhz4z2w
Sorry Charlie
as I said on the other thread I totally disagree
Poore adds agression and animal to the pack that I havn't seen at Trinity for decades.. he was a [u:3vhz4z2w :3vhz4z2wmassive :3vhz4z2w[/u for the unknowing)
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"Sorry Charlie
as I said on the other thread I totally disagree
Poore adds agression and animal to the pack that I havn't seen at Trinity for decades.. he was a [umassive [/upart of winning the forward battle tonight. A real good, proper prop forward.
I love watching him play (even if he is an ex Drag Queen - thats dragon [St George for the unknowing)'"
OK. I'll agree to disagree as we are on the same side. All I'll say is, the best props know how to channel aggression and if Poore could do that I would agree he would be a dangerous prospect. I don't follow Aussie RL but I have an Aussie friend whose opinion I asked (who has played RL and RU in Oz alongside Korky and one ot 2 we know) on Poore and he is pretty much as predicted.
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| Watching the replays of the try where Fox didn't catch it, I feel a bit sorry for him. The ball was quite some distance from him and there were players running back towards it. I think he just hesitated for a moment, wondering if they were better placed, and by then he'd lost it.
Poore I can't make my mind up. Players who give penalties away run on a profit and loss basis, that if they are good enough in other parts, you'll take the odd penalty. Solomona could be a liability at times with his need to offload wherever he was on the pitch, but the positives outweighed the negatives so much. I'm not sure they do with Poore, although I can't help feeling that his reputation precedes him. A couple of the holding down penalties were a bit harsh.
A great end though!
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"OK. I'll agree to disagree as we are on the same side. '"
Not really an issue... in the end these discussions are all about opinion and personal view, interpretation.
I will repeat though just how much I enjoyed the game! If that was served up every week I would be a very happy rugby league supporter.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"He definitely has form for it'"
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