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| Quote Wakefield Wildcats @WTWildcatsRL Wildcats centre Dean Collis has directly been involved in more Trinity scores than anybody in 2013 with 6 tries & 7 assists '"
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
No one has called him amazing, come on.
He's a good quality import.
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| Quote ="vastman"Seriously
I suppose we all see it differently but I see no issue there at all and neither does my friend and mentor Richard.'"
Yup, I have not seen anything from him to convince me he has an offload game, and seen as he seems to have a decent amounts of all the other traits of a good centre then yes, it's the weakest part of his game for me, and the thing that (luckily for us) means he is with us rather than at the likes of Leeds or Wigan or even still in the NRL.
Centres need many attributes but their main objective is to put their winger way, he is very good at making space for his winger but the thing that separates a good centre from an exceptional one is the offload - and this is something he simply doesn't have in his armoury from what I have seen from him. Look at the best couple of centres we have seen over here for many, many years in Lyon and Gidley (and probably the best centre in the league right now in Joel Moon) - the main thing that set them apart from the rest was their ability to get rid of the ball in contact.
Agree with the general sentiment though, he's a good player and we should be doing everything within our power (bank balance permitting) to try and keep hold of him.
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
To me Collis always looks dangerous when he gets his hands on the ball, Even when the rest of the team arnt issueing any attacking threat.
He`s made 10 CLEAN breaks so far this season, 1 less than ben cockayne, also 34 tackle busts ! To me hes our most consistant player and very rarely has a bad game. but i still think that there is more to come from him.#
I certainly dont think that he gets `Bigged up more than he deserves` if anything its the opposite for me.
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
It's funny because I'd say he's under rated, we hardly ever have topics about him, just the comments in match threads saying he's had a good game.
The thing I like about Collis is that he's a proper . He's all about creating space to put the winger away, he usually always makes things happen on the ball & constantly beats the player in front of him, massively consistent as well.
I say if Collis wants a new contract, give him one.
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| No brainer this one, get him signed up now. Best centre we've had for a good few years, other than Domic I don't think there has been anyone as good for us in the SL era.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"No brainer this one, get him signed up now. Best centre we've had for a good few years, other than Domic I don't think there has been anyone as good for us in the SL era.'"
TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.
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| Quote ="vastman"TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.'"
Atkins was more of a battering ram though - probably down to how we used him to be fair, but he usually ended up trying to smash his way through defenders rather than beating them on the run like Collis. The reliance on Atkins' power was demonstrated for me when Millard arrived and we tried to use him the same way, and he was unable to deliver - hence we never really saw his 'magic' in SL until he went to Catalans.
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| Quote ="vastman"TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.'"
Atkins was good for us no doubt but as you say very raw and very one dimensional at the time. For me Collis is the better all round centre, or at least more of a finished product, during their respective times with us. Atkins these days though has gained more aspects to his game and has bolossomed at Warrington.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Atkins was good for us no doubt but as you say very raw and very one dimensional at the time. For me Collis is the better all round centre, or at least more of a finished product, during their respective times with us. Atkins these days though has gained more aspects to his game and has bolossomed at Warrington.'"
I am of course referring to the Atkins of today who I believe is better than Collis but he would be as Atkins athleticism is a rarity - in terms of technique I agree.
Richard also agrees with me as he always does
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| Another great pass from Collis to put fox in...
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| Anyone questioning the ability of Collis after tonight needs to reconsider what sport they're watching. You could tell he was class last season but now he's proving it.
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| Different class tonight, get that contract extended now!
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Anyone questioning the ability of Collis after tonight needs to reconsider what sport they're watching. You could tell he was class last season but now he's proving it.'"
Tbh it's hard to get my head around anyone who says they haven't noticed him much, he's got the skills to pay the bills.
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| it will be hard to push him out of this position for our young ones coming through, Cowling and Walshaw look good but at this moment but Dean is making his new contract look like a must.
I was disappointed when Millard left as I thought we hadn't seen the best of him but Collis is just class
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| Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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| As previous posters have said, definitely the best centre in years. For me he just get's better every week, looks very classy and that offload pass to Fox he has in his locker, absolutely awesome! It's a no brainer, get him signed.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.
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| Hope we can get him signed up one of our better overseas signings over the years the best centre we have had in years
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| Has been terrorizing opposition centres all year, gets better with every game, need to get him signed up for the long term ASAP.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
Have you spent the last 18 months with your back to the game??
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
Jeez, you're a hard man to please!
I started to feel a bit sorry for his opposite number last night - he absolutely terrorised him.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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One of the many self appointed experts who post on here.
Of course they will all now be giving their trite humble pie apologies on some thread or other - they never learn.
Why fans don't concentrate on the positives and just enjoy the wins when they come is beyond me - let the coach worry about the rest.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
... and one appears right on time. Give it a rest you're clearly no Wayne Bennett or even Mrs Bennett for that matter.
Leave it to me and Richard, we know what we are doing
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Have you spent the last 18 months with your back to the game??'"
Nope. What makes you think that?
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