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| I believe the the price of the ticket can only be determined by the quality of the product, but understand that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys... I honestly think it's too early on in the season to say.
I do however think it's a rip off on the gate.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I like the idea of a monthly DD, however I think it is hard to introduce. At what point in the season do you start paying for next year? Surely the club need to know that members have paid for their season ticket in advance of the season starting otherwise what's to stop people setting it up then cancelling once issued with their ticket?
Pricewise I'd agree that as a ST holder you need to get some financial benefit (or free games) as people can not always make every game. the equivalent of £15 a game seems reasonable, it allows you to miss 3 games and still be in no worse position than if you had paid the walk up price for each game you attended.
Based on that being £195 for games, then a £20/month DD which includes a shirt and maybe a couple of other things would seem reasonable.
Maybe if you made it £15/month for 2014, starting fairly soon you could get 10 months worth of payments in before next season to make ST's £150 next year, then increase to the above for the following year (giving you a full 12 months to collect monies for 2015)'"
I agree with the half or even a 1/3 ticket and starting to pay as early as tickets are available now I.e August. collect the next bit once payments are recieved in full for that part.
I do wonder how people expect to keep the prices so low. we've paid at top 225 for a seated ticket, anything up to that would be acceptable to me, 125 this year was silly. cant make money at that price
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| Quote ="WT Supporters Trust"
In general terms the cost of a Season Ticket needs to go up - they are being under-valued as things stand - but how much do you think the cost should be?
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If our league position dosn't improve or even gets worse by the end of the season I would suggest they are over valued.
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| If you look at it this way IF 5000 ST holders rener at £25 more and that is directly fed into squad building - that equates to a £125k salary spend.
Some will call for a top earner others more spaces in the cap for local youngsters.
A £50 increase will achive both, will only take the ST up to £175 (a little over £13 a game) and will help is move the squad and the club on.
On a monthly DD it would be less than £15 per ST holder spread over the year.
Add on any other benefits/increased benefits that the club can chuck our way and I still see it as extremely good value for money.
I completely agree that some may find it difficult, but that is only due to the present ST price when put up against £22 a game or £286 per season on the gate, I think it holds up.
Also until we are back to paying full whack we are effectively losing ground on our competitors, the longer it takes the further we get left behind (cash wise) and the steeper the gradient of our chase.
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| As a shift worker and single parent on a tight budget I havent bought a season ticket for this year, partly because I cant afford the outlay, even though the early bird offer is payable over 3 months, but also I can only make it to 6 or 7 of the games in any case.
If the club were to offer a half season ticket of the games of my choice plus a DD scheme over 6 months or more then it would be perfect for me but I cannot expect or hope they will do so because of the administrative nightmare it would probably cause.
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| Quote ="alleycat"As a shift worker and single parent on a tight budget I havent bought a season ticket for this year, partly because I cant afford the outlay, even though the early bird offer is payable over 3 months, but also I can only make it to 6 or 7 of the games in any case.
If the club were to offer a half season ticket of the games of my choice plus a DD scheme over 6 months or more then it would be perfect for me but I cannot expect or hope they will do so because of the administrative nightmare it would probably cause.'"
If you ask nicely the club might pay it for you too (joke)
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| Quote ="jack in the box"If our league position dosn't improve or even gets worse by the end of the season I would suggest they are over valued.'"
That's not right at all.
This is a full time professional sporting organisation requiring a large number of participants. £125 for a full season is stupidly cheap and, whilst I support the reasoning behind it - i.e. growing the numbers of supporters - none of us should accept that this is realistic.
Less than £10 per match for live action sport at the top tier of our sport - when it costs that much to watch pictures projected onto wall at your local cinema - is not sustainable and is in danger of giving people the wrong impression of what can be conceived as value for money - just as you have shown here.
The fact that we are playing poorly is immaterial in this regard - it just makes the sell so much harder.
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| Quote ="TRB"That's not right at all.
This is a full time professional sporting organisation requiring a large number of participants. £125 for a full season is stupidly cheap and, whilst I support the reasoning behind it - i.e. growing the numbers of supporters - none of us should accept that this is realistic.
Less than £10 per match for live action sport at the top tier of our sport - when it costs that much to watch pictures projected onto wall at your local cinema - is not sustainable and is in danger of giving people the wrong impression of what can be conceived as value for money - just as you have shown here.
The fact that we are playing poorly is immaterial in this regard - it just makes the sell so much harder.'"
I agree with him. Regardless of what others are charging I always leave a game thinking 'was that worth £x?' At the end of the season I will bear all that in mind before shelling out again.
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| Prices need to increase but everyone is facing desperate financial times, the club included. A staged increase over the next 2/3 seasons to Newmarket has to be the way forward. BUT there has to be clarity from the club on Segregation/Smoking/Antisocial behaviour. Happy to do my bit to support the club but it needs to support those that support it better - please!
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| Quote ="TRB"That's not right at all.
This is a full time professional sporting organisation requiring a large number of participants. £125 for a full season is stupidly cheap and, whilst I support the reasoning behind it - i.e. growing the numbers of supporters - none of us should accept that this is realistic.
Less than £10 per match for live action sport at the top tier of our sport - when it costs that much to watch pictures projected onto wall at your local cinema - is not sustainable and is in danger of giving people the wrong impression of what can be conceived as value for money - just as you have shown here.
The fact that we are playing poorly is immaterial in this regard - it just makes the sell so much harder.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="TRB"That's not right at all.
This is a full time professional sporting organisation requiring a large number of participants. £125 for a full season is stupidly cheap and, whilst I support the reasoning behind it - i.e. growing the numbers of supporters - none of us should accept that this is realistic.
Less than £10 per match for live action sport at the top tier of our sport - when it costs that much to watch pictures projected onto wall at your local cinema - is not sustainable and is in danger of giving people the wrong impression of what can be conceived as value for money - just as you have shown here.
The fact that we are playing poorly is immaterial in this regard - it just makes the sell so much harder.'"
I would add that they are selling a game of rugby. They are not selling a win. They are not underselling when the team are not doing well.
However, of course you have to judge what you receive for your money. They are selling a game that is as TRB says is easier to sell if we are winning, or even playing in an entertaining way.
I would imagine Agar is not working on the entertainment part, but the winning part. The entertainment is a by-product and is different for each customer.
I found the game at the weekend quite entertaining, even though we didn't win.
In addition, you are paying for type of "membership" to the club to be able to say you are a supporter. Of course you can be that for free and not go but effectively, that's my way of explaining people like me who have watched for years, whether the product has been good or not.
You should always assess whether you are getting value for money and plan accordingly, but for me, the current season ticket price is ridiculous value for money. It isn't for everyone, as not everyone can stump up the cash on a one off and may not know they can attend the games until the day, but for me, I'd probably still buy at £200
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| The half year season ticket wouldnot be that big an administrative issue.
They can just use the unsold season tickets. You can't use the tickets for games already played so no big deal.
The price would be the question. If they make it half the cost of the full season people might be tempted to wait. They should be more expensive but still good value against on the day price so that they can catch the ones who missed out and are now able to go.
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| Monthly membership would probably be preferable for most supporters, given the ability to spread the cost over a period of time. That presents an issue for the club however, in that it's not good in cashflow terms.
Maybe they should partner with a licensed credit broker; sell memberships on 0% finance, still bag the cash up front and leave the loan company to deal with those people who default? Have a word with Bradford - I gather they know a bloke!
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| Quote ="PopTart"The half year season ticket wouldnot be that big an administrative issue.
They can just use the unsold season tickets. You can't use the tickets for games already played so no big deal.
The price would be the question. If they make it half the cost of the full season people might be tempted to wait. They should be more expensive but still good value against on the day price so that they can catch the ones who missed out and are now able to go.'"
I think half season tickets are a good idea for those who can't make it to many matches.
The club will know how many season ticket vouchers have actually been used and so what value they are getting from them.
I wonder how many are in similar postiion to myself. I've had a season ticket for the last 2 years, but I only attended 2 matches last year and none so far this year. I'll probably be able to get to 2 or 3 again. I bought a season ticket to support the club. £125 was cheap enough if I only get to 3 matches (£60) and instead of buying a replica shirt. If it was nearer £200, I'd have to reconsider.
I would buy a ticket if it was say, £100 for 6 matches (buy 5 get one free). However, this may have a big knock-on effect to full season tickets with people cherry-picking the best 6 fixtures and missing any that are on TV.
I think the club should also have some recognition of the loyalty of season ticket holders, either some kind of discount, or even something as simple as a badge or pin for continuous support over a number of years. People like their loyalty and committment to be appreciated and rewarded in some way.
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| The Half season ticket was only for the second half of the season and not, say 6 or 7 tickets that could be used for any home game.
A good idea, especially if the team is going well, as it can entice new ST holders for the following season.
The loyalty thing that Coco mentions is a great ides.
The reward shouldn't be anything costly, but should be something exclusive.
Perhaps, something for 5 years, 10 years and 20 years and if someone makes 50 years they should become life members.
Maybe a wall of "fame" at Newmarket ?
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| I like the loyalty and pin badge idea. The only downside would be that they won't have the history from previous years.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I like the loyalty and pin badge idea. The only downside would be that they won't have the history from previous years.'"
Agreed it could only start with the new club, but if there's a system outlined, starting small with something for the 3rd year, it would encourage continuity. It could be linked to some benefits regarding the proposed new stadium, as and when.
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| Just bung it up to £180 and offer easy terms early, that way its helps fans who are not flush with money but wish to sign up.
Do not increase match day gate prices.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Just bung it up to £180 and offer easy terms early, that way its helps fans who are not flush with money but wish to sign up.
Do not increase match day gate prices.'"
Yes a rise in ST's is a given next season imo, so I agree this is probably the best way to go about doing it.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yes a rise in ST's is a given next season imo, so I agree this is probably the best way to go about doing it.'"
Whatever they decide it needs to be kept SIMPLE imo.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Just bung it up to £180 and offer easy terms early, that way its helps fans who are not flush with money but wish to sign up.
Do not increase match day gate prices.'"
We could increase the price when Hull FC come to town
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