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| Quote ="Tricky2309"According to our friends on CasForum, there was no way there was over 9000 there, we are lying to impress the RFL!'"
Good old nutjob forum.
Deranged!!
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| I try not to be critical of our supporters but,
I was stood under the big screen and was surrounded by mainly older supporters of their late 40s up to 70s and maybe 80s there were a few kids there from what looked as young as 6 or 7 years old and a bunch of 13 year olds that we brought to the game.
That's not exactly the sort of mix who are going to start singing and chanting!
I don't know if we're talking about the same group of late teenage and 20 somethings but the lads stood a few feet from me would be struck dumb if the 'F' Word was removed from their vocabulary either that or everytime they spoke they'd sound like a Norman Collier sketch.
I'm not naive enough to think that I can go to a game and never hear bad language and swearing but is it too much to ask that you tone it down around kids or that you might move to an area where the people there would be less offended and the 'C' word is less inappropriate.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"According to our friends on CasForum, there was no way there was over 9000 there, we are lying to impress the RFL!'"
Jeez! let me guess, when we have a 6k crowd and they think theres more than 6k in, will we be acused of fiddling our books to bring the tax bill down. Talk about being obsessed.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Jeez! let me guess, when we have a 6k crowd and they think theres more than 6k in, will we be acused of fiddling our books to bring the tax bill down. Talk about being obsessed.'"
Sounds about right
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"According to our friends on CasForum, there was no way there was over 9000 there, we are lying to impress the RFL!'"
Just had a look over there, I am embarrassed for them
No mention of the marketing that went into promoting the game on the radio etc, or the booking of the band to perform,
No No No! It's all just lies!, heads back in the sand lads!
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| Quote ="The Clan"I try not to be critical of our supporters but,
I was stood under the big screen and was surrounded by mainly older supporters of their late 40s up to 70s and maybe 80s there were a few kids there from what looked as young as 6 or 7 years old and a bunch of 13 year olds that we brought to the game.
That's not exactly the sort of mix who are going to start singing and chanting!
I don't know if we're talking about the same group of late teenage and 20 somethings but the lads stood a few feet from me would be struck dumb if the 'F' Word was removed from their vocabulary either that or everytime they spoke they'd sound like a Norman Collier sketch.
I'm not naive enough to think that I can go to a game and never hear bad language and swearing but is it too much to ask that you tone it down around kids or that you might move to an area where the people there would be less offended and the 'C' word is less inappropriate.'"
I can't think of a single occasion when the "C" word is appropriate. I can't understand why some people can only express their passion, or general conversation through foul language. I've never been one for bad language and it is only on the rare occasion that such words pass my lips.
In general it is offensive, especially when you are surrounded by strangers.
Sport is sport though, whether it be rugby, football or something else. Bad language has always been present on the terraces and I dare say always will be. Such a shame that people are brought up in an environment where it is tolerated at home and with their peers.
You have my sympathy The Clan.
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| I was in the north stand, boy did i enjoy it, we spoke about the KR fans, no way was there 1500, more like 700 tops was, alot of Trins fans in the west stand
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| Less at Cas than BV and we were on TV Oh and they were plaaying Leeds, great result for Cas though good job Leeds brought 5K
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| Quote ="18th Man"Just under the screen voices were muted, it was embarrassing the lack of vocal support!'"
Should have should in the North Stand then back/ centre where most of the singers go not the corner. Good atmosphere last night in the north stand and will only get better.
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| Ask Peter fox how vocal and supportive he thinks the screen corner fans are
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| Quote ="The Clan"I try not to be critical of our supporters but,
I was stood under the big screen and was surrounded by mainly older supporters of their late 40s up to 70s and maybe 80s there were a few kids there from what looked as young as 6 or 7 years old and a bunch of 13 year olds that we brought to the game.
That's not exactly the sort of mix who are going to start singing and chanting!
I don't know if we're talking about the same group of late teenage and 20 somethings but the lads stood a few feet from me would be struck dumb if the 'F' Word was removed from their vocabulary either that or everytime they spoke they'd sound like a Norman Collier sketch.
I'm not naive enough to think that I can go to a game and never hear bad language and swearing but is it too much to ask that you tone it down around kids or that you might move to an area where the people there would be less offended and the 'C' word is less inappropriate.'"
Unfortunately you're right. A large percentage of the younger generation see the 'f' word as a necessary word in their vocabulary and they don't really care if it offends others. I used to think the offenders were just the uneducated few trying to make up for their lack of intellect but it isn't. You can walk round any town centre and the younger generation use the words most of us use discreetly, freely, in public, regardless of what others think. I'm afraid we've lost that one!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Unfortunately you're right. A large percentage of the younger generation see the 'f' word as a necessary word in their vocabulary and they don't really care if it offends others. I used to think the offenders were just the uneducated few trying to make up for their lack of intellect but it isn't. You can walk round any town centre and the younger generation use the words most of us use discreetly, freely, in public, regardless of what others think. I'm afraid we've lost that one!'"
Yes, it does make you wonder what some people think constitutes "foul and abusive language".
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Yes, it does make you wonder what some people think constitutes "foul and abusive language".
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Sadly it crept in to some chants at the back end of the game, if it continues it will spoil all the hard work done by the club so far.
Needs sorting sharpish.
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| I too was next to that group of potty-mouths - totally unnecessary and for mine, shows a lack of maturity, given that we were surrounded by older folks and kids.
I don't mind a bit of industrial language in the right circumstances, but in the middle of a mixed crowd isn't it; I blame the parents/the government/modern society/video games/immigrants/popular music.*
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| It used to be used in dramas to convey utter frustration or intense anger , now it is used so much it has no dramatic effect.
So called satirical shows, which pale into insignificance compared to those of the past,use industrial language nearly every other word.
So what can we expect.
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| Do season ticket sales count towards attendance regardless of attendances? I always thought they worked it out on turnstile clicks.
On the one hand, it would seem to make it a difficult job, because you would need to work out exactly how much of the cash received related to concessions, etc, as aren't some of the gates mixed?
Having said that, there did seem to be plenty of spaces and so I wasn't convinced the attendance was as high as they said, but it was still very healthy, particularly as it was a Saturday teatime Sky game on a cold day.
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| Yes they are all counted, which is fair enough as the ticket has been bought and paid for. I think this is the reason why people get confused with the crowd figures especialy at cup games. One week you are at a league match and a crowd of say 7000 is given out, next week you have a cup game and it looks like the same numbers in the ground and the crowd is announced at 3,500.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Do season ticket sales count towards attendance regardless of attendances? I always thought they worked it out on turnstile clicks.
On the one hand, it would seem to make it a difficult job, because you would need to work out exactly how much of the cash received related to concessions, etc, as aren't some of the gates mixed?
Having said that, there did seem to be plenty of spaces and so I wasn't convinced the attendance was as high as they said, but it was still very healthy, particularly as it was a Saturday teatime Sky game on a cold day.'"
The crowd was certainly higher than I guessed on the night (8k) but its worth noting Belle Vue holds approx.11k so there was still space for another 1700 people, although i believe the safety certificate only permits 10k to be in the ground.
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| If you want to know the true attendance, ask someone from the nutjob forum - there's a whole thread dedicated to it, along with some 'expert' opinion on how we've been fiddling the figures for years.
Personally, it's become my first stop for WTW related news stories - they've got all the scoops.
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| Which forum is this thread on?
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| Cheers DA, looked all over but couldn't find the drivel!
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| OMG. Why would you go to that effort to think of a way to lie about attendances?
I particularly like the reason to justify inflating the attendance and not getting caught by the tax man was to reduce a big attendance later in the year!?!? Why on earth would you do that? You be quoting the same annual attendance, the tax would be the same but you've had to sit there flexing numbers up and down just to pee off the Cas fans forum.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The crowd was certainly higher than I guessed on the night (8k) but its worth noting Belle Vue holds approx.11k so there was still space for another 1700 people, although i believe the safety certificate only permits 10k to be in the ground.'"
Yes it looked as full as I've seen it since probably Leeds last season, which seen as we were on Sky was a very good surprise.
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| has it appeared in Corronation st or eastenders yet?
in time it will.
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