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| Its illegal. It's bad for the club reputation. It's spoils it for the players. It spoils it for the fans who remain in the stands.
Can't see how you can defend that.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Something not necessary?
Beach balls, fancy dress, chanting, applauding - all not necessary but condemnable?
For mine, it's been arguably the most exciting season since promotion and if people get a little carried away then I can live with that. I think it shows what the win meant to some people that they actually felt the need to go on the pitch.
So for me not a problem, the players came over - we'll see them next week, whats the big deal?
As for the effect on the match officials and the Salford fans, I'm sure they are all sat at home now rocking back and forth manically in a state of deep post traumatic stress at the sight of 30 or so Wakey fans high fiving their players before retreating back to the stand.
Really, lighten up!'"
Nice twist pal
I dont think I mentioned anything about beach balls chanting fancy dress etc. what I mentioned was how you have condoned an illegal act you obviously dont get its a criminal offence to enter the playing area.
I dont know about lighten up you need to grow up!
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its illegal. It's bad for the club reputation. It's spoils it for the players. It spoils it for the fans who remain in the stands.
Can't see how you can defend that.'"
Spot on.
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| I repeat my question to TrinityIHC, were you one of those who went on the pitch?
(It is the only reason I can think of as to why you would defend those who did.)
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| It's not illegal, by the way.
Aside from that point, it was self-centred and childish and took some of the shine away.
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"It is an arrestable offence to enter the field of play without lawful authority"
Whilst this link is to a football club I believe it applies to professional rugby grounds as well. Not only was there a clear green sign in front of us at the advertising hoardings saying it is illegal, I have often heard it referred to at matches over the years.
Can't find anything legal yet on the web but if I do I will post.
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"It is an arrestable offence to enter the field of play without lawful authority"
Whilst this link is to a football club I believe it applies to professional rugby grounds as well. Not only was there a clear green sign in front of us at the advertising hoardings saying it is illegal, I have often heard it referred to at matches over the years.
Can't find anything legal yet on the web but if I do I will post.
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| Wow, best get my tin hat on here!
Look illegal or not, it happens at sporting events up and down the country with no serious consequences. I don't remember anyone condemning it this much when it happened at any of the numerous last day of the season avoiding relegation games. Including when there were approx 1000+ on the pitch waiting to hear the outcome of the Salford Cas game in the early 2000's.
To answer Wildshot, yes I did go on the pitch - bit of a rush of blood to the head to be honest but I certainly don't condone any of the violence (I didn't notice at the time but I'll take your word.)
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, the players came over and celebrated at the end as well so no harm done IMO.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC" I don't remember anyone condemning it this much when it happened at any of the numerous last day of the season avoiding relegation games. Including when there were approx 1000+ on the pitch waiting to hear the outcome of the Salford Cas game in the early 2000's.'"
That was my first ever game and I thought it was like that every week....
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's not illegal, by the way.
Aside from that point, it was self-centred and childish and took some of the shine away.'"
Will be a condition of entry to any ground football its an offence LSV could be a designated sporting ground as it has Blackburn Rovers reserves playing there.
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| The best sight is the players coming over to the fans and showing how they appreciate the support not a rabble of fans going on the pitch
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| Quote ="Captain Library"That was my first ever game and I thought it was like that every week....'"
It used to be.
Thesedays, clubs are so frightened of one of the invaders hurting themselves and suddenly switching from free-spirited celebrant to litigious claimant, that they have no choice but to impose what could be viewed as fun restrictions.
I blame the Americans. And lawyers.
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| Quote ="wildshot"www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A62338719
"It is an arrestable offence to enter the field of play without lawful authority"
Whilst this link is to a football club I believe it applies to professional rugby grounds as well. Not only was there a clear green sign in front of us at the advertising hoardings saying it is illegal, I have often heard it referred to at matches over the years.
Can't find anything legal yet on the web but if I do I will post.'"
It is an offence to enter the field of play of a designated sporting event. The only events so far designated are football games.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Will be a condition of entry to any ground football its an offence LSV could be a designated sporting ground as it has Blackburn Rovers reserves playing there.'"
It's the event that is designated, not the ground.
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| Quote ="Captain Library"That was my first ever game and I thought it was like that every week....'"
What did you think to it? Did it spoil it for you? Did you join in?
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| Standing up all game in a stadium despite being told to sit down, smoking in a stadium despite being told it was a no smoking stadium and going on the pitch despite being told not to do so. 'We'll do what we want', pathetic.
Really enjoyed the game though and can't wait for Headingley where I assume a number of folk will sit down and not smoke!
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| Quote ="feline"The man who ran on first was also smoking most of the game next to a sleeping baby in pushchair and other youngsters . I did tell him what I thought of him as he came back off the pitch.'"
He's clearly shown on Sky with a fag in his mouth at 97 minutes
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| Quote ="18th Man"He's clearly shown on Sky with a fag in his mouth at 97 minutes
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He was indeed.
In Australia they don't even ask kindly, if you are smoking in the ground then you are ejected immediately, no questions asked.
The LSV stewards did not look to be of the professional quality of Key Security, not a criticism of them just how some clubs operate. They clearly did not feel safe enjoy to eject people.
If I see anyone on our terrace smoking on Saturday night I will have no hesitation on informing a steward.
Just because people have addictions doesn't mean that they have the right to impose poisonous air on the rest of us. Please show respect on the rest of us.
TrinityIHC your response doesn't surprise me. Am I correct in saying that you are someone who went to the Cas game dressed as Santa?? I take it that you love our club as much as we do. Times have moved on in the last decade and fans of a decade ago have matured and moved on. If your actions result in a fan on the club then don't expect to find any friends on here.
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| Quote ="wildshot"He was indeed.
In Australia they don't even ask kindly, if you are smoking in the ground then you are ejected immediately, no questions asked.
The LSV stewards did not look to be of the professional quality of Key Security, not a criticism of them just how some clubs operate. They clearly did not feel safe enjoy to eject people.
If I see anyone on our terrace smoking on Saturday night I will have no hesitation on informing a steward.
Just because people have addictions doesn't mean that they have the right to impose poisonous air on the rest of us. Please show respect on the rest of us.
TrinityIHC your response doesn't surprise me. Am I correct in saying that you are someone who went to the Cas game dressed as Santa?? I take it that you love our club as much as we do. Times have moved on in the last decade and fans of a decade ago have matured and moved on. If your actions result in a fan on the club then don't expect to find any friends on here.'"
My god you are dull.
You are incorrect with your assumption regarding dressing up as Santa, although for me if someone wishes to attend a game in fancy dress then I don't see why they would attract your derision. Perhaps you would be happier if everyone turned up dressed in grey suits, sat miserably watching the game and then left (quietly) upon the final hooter?
"Times have moved on in the last decade and fans of a decade ago have matured and moved on" - What a strange and bizarre thing to say, it doesn't even make sense unless you are making the point that fans of 10 years ago are now 10 years older, which is blatantly obvious.
Finally, if Wakey do receive a "fan" (fine?) then I will apologise, however it won't happen because as I've mentioned it happens up and down the country and has happened many many times at Belle Vue on the last game of the season.
To be honest I am surprised someone as sensitive and tedious as yourself enjoys the thrills and spills of RL, but hey ho it takes all sorts I suppose. I'd like to make an assumption of my own if I may, I think you may be one of these who sits and counts how many times a swearword is used on a TV programme, before sending in a disgusted and self righteous letter to Ofcom?
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC" I'd like to make an assumption of my own if I may, I think you may be one of these who sits and counts how many times a swearword is used on a TV programme, before sending in a disgusted and self righteous letter to Ofcom?'"
You couldn't be further from the truth.
My only crime is loving this club and despising any actions which ruin the integrity and good name of the club. In recent times this has been caused by selfish actions of fans who break the rules (smoking, pitch invasions) or are aggressive and antagonisig to other supporters. I plead very guilty on the crime of pride, sue me. If you read this thread you will also see that you are in the significant minority of people on here who support the actions of the pitch invaders.
I like everyone else enjoy watching our team, celebrating and having a good time, but not at the expense of the majority of others or to the discomfort of anyone else.
Apologies for asking if you were dressed as Santa. I have no problems with people coming in fancy dress, it all adds to the fun and atmosphere. The reason I mentioned it is that I remember after the Cas game there was a fan on here who admitted being dressed as Santa and tried to defend some young lads who were rightly/wrongly implicated with adding to the tension that night. Again, I apologise for asking the question if you were that person or not.
Continue as you are, if you continue to break the rules and disrespect the good name of our club then I have no sympathy for the consequences of your behaviour.
Onwards and upwards. Trinity forever.
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| Non smokers, dont you just love em. I don't condone any of the agressive behaviour but for gods sake lighten up and enjoy the season.
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| Quote ="inside man"Non smokers, dont you just love em.'"
Having been on both sides of the fence, I can say with certainty that even as a professional smoker, I would never have sparked up in the middle of a non-smoking crowd - it's just disrespectful.
If you can't go 80 minutes without a fag, I'd suggest some nicotine gum or an inhalator; equally, if you choose to ignore a non-smoking rule and get yourself ejected, that's just tough tittes.
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| I'm a smoker but do not agree with people smoking in a packed stand. It is not appropriate to subject people to my second hand smoke.
I didn't have one at Leigh but I do home games. I just walk to the back of the stand /steps where very few people are.
Anyway it's happened. Everyone has different opinions but let's let's concentrate on smashing the rhinos into the ground. That will do me just fine
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| Quote ="wildshot"<snip>'"
Well indeed. FWIW I am also a dreaded smoker, but would never dream of sparking up in a stand of people, I always move to a less populated area if I have one at all during the game.
Anyway sounds like we are both passionate about WTW so we're on the same side anyway, just with a difference of opinion. You sound like a decent enough individual anyway so I've no desire to continue arguing with you - as someone has already said, let's look forward to the Rhinos game and concentrate getting one over on them.
Up't Trinity!
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| So did we agree that invading the pitch is bad and that we shouldn't do it against Leeds (or anyone else)?
The other arguements are about things taht are disrespectful to other supporters but invading the pitch will give us a bad name and undo a lot of the hard work done by the team and board.
Its taken a lot of work to get us talked about as positively as we are now. Lets not spoil it.
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| Would it be worth paying a couple of our security staff to attend at the away games if only to identify trouble causers. Would hate to see club fined and losing money that could be used for potential signings. Did see some poor behaviour on Saturday, actually saw some middle aged woman holding back one of the barriers while supporters ran on to field!!!!! also heard some fans singing the praises of Leeds United. Baffling
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