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| Great news following good win.
Important to keep momentum going re. maintaining and increasing fan base as we build for next season.
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| Yep good news and deserved to be rewarded with an extension, keeps options open for both parties with it being just for a year.
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| IMHO smiths only been given a year 'cos he's only had two good games for us all season, Widnes away and last sunday, been mediorcre at best for rest of year. We have looked alot better when Woody comes on.
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"IMHO smiths only been given a year 'cos he's only had two good games for us all season, Widnes away and last sunday, been mediorcre at best for rest of year. We have looked alot better when Woody comes on.'"
Wood has been ineffective for the entire season! Only had a couple of good stints off the bench.
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| Genuine question - has Smith shown any sign of developing a running game at all? When he started with Parra he looked the goods in terms of passing and kicking (I remember Peter Sterling being genuinely hopeful that he could be the real deal for them for years), but opponents soon worked out that he was absolutely zero threat ball in hand, and he started to look very ordinary.
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"IMHO smiths only been given a year 'cos he's only had two good games for us all season, Widnes away and last sunday, been mediorcre at best for rest of year. We have looked alot better when Woody comes on.'"
Its the end of a long day so my sarcasm filter may be busted but i hope you are joking.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its the end of a long day so my sarcasm filter may be busted but i hope you are joking.'"
Ive been on here long enough to realise that alot of users look at Wakey with red,white and blue tinted glasses. I, on the other hand speak as i see.
Disagree if you want, but i never know which Tim Smith will cross the white wash, and to be blatantly honest i dont think Agar or Smith himself does.
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| Smith is at the hub of most of the creative things we do we do.
He organises, well up the league in try assists, and I believe he has scored 5 tries.
I believe he will become even more of a force next year.
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| Quote ="jacques"Smith is at the hub of most of the creative things we do we do.
He organises, well up the league in try assists, and I believe he has scored 5 tries.
I believe he will become even more of a force next year.'"
5th top try assists in SL the club site says. Pretty good that.
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| Excellent news!!
Could have been a bit better news if it was a little longer, but could suit both club and player.....at least he's here for another year and will be even better next I reckon!
Can't believe the negativity around this fella......he's top drawer and has shown it on many, many occasions this season......I must be watching a different game sometimes....
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"IMHO smiths only been given a year 'cos he's only had two good games for us all season, Widnes away and last sunday, been mediorcre at best for rest of year. We have looked alot better when Woody comes on.'"
When has woody been on and not had smith on at the same time? considering both played different positions all season i dont know how u get this. accepted opinions vary but smith has 19 try assists and wood 3
I also recall him having a good game at magic weekend although my opinion also
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| I like to speak as I see as well and if someone thinks he's only had two good games all season either they know naff all about RL or they have a serious agenda going on where Tim Smith is concerned.
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| Great news a quality player , and we would be better still if and when we sign two props who take us forward . He has looked good and will look better still when he is playing on the front foot.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Genuine question - has Smith shown any sign of developing a running game at all? When he started with Parra he looked the goods in terms of passing and kicking (I remember Peter Sterling being genuinely hopeful that he could be the real deal for them for years), but opponents soon worked out that he was absolutely zero threat ball in hand, and he started to look very ordinary.'"
Fair points all - but players change.
TBH I can never see Smith having a brilliant running game but it's adequate for us. He's also pretty big for a 7 so he's never going to be a livewire - but then the British game is full of livewires without a first class RL brain which is why so many young H/B end up as hookers.
I reckon Smith won't get caught out in SL, one because he and his team have improved this season and two because it's SL.
That said he score a beauty against Cas at Manchester so he can run the ball - just not as often as some. He needs players around him who will.
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| Fantastic news!
Smith is our game manager - he runs the show and, when Tim has a good game - so do we! He is as good as we will get and is better than several better paid halves currently in the game.
He has developed with the side and it seems like the confidence level in him is really strong now - which is important in a half-back (ask Danny Brough right now).
The one year deal is no reflection on either player or club, just a family preference given the recent arrival.
Well chuffed - need to find a 6 that compliments his playing style now!
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| Quote ="upthecats"Excellent news!!
Could have been a bit better news if it was a little longer, but could suit both club and player.....at least he's here for another year and will be even better next I reckon!
Can't believe the negativity around this fella......he's top drawer and has shown it on many, many occasions this season......I must be watching a different game sometimes....
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As our friend Brisbane stated he's not got a great running game. For many RL fans if a HB is not bouncing around like a demented monkey then he's no good. They love a Rob Burrows who is the best of the breed but still lacks a real RL HB mind.
Oh well. Some players never impress the hordes, Bibey never did despite the fastest PTB I've seen and thus a constant pain to the opposition but they loved Korki. Raleigh is another, twice the player than Crabtree is but but he doesn't stick out with Crabtree and his apparently barnstorming runs that always see him on his backside catching the eye. But you tell Code 13 and the other Hudds cyclopses that. I can neme dozens of unsung Wakey players.
He'll never please a section of the crowd in a way Aiton or Woods do, but he will create more than either (and I am a massive Aiton fan).
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| Quote ="vastman"I see no problem with Sykes TBH, I'd stick with them for next year - why mess
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If you went to Hudds you'd know! He works hard and brings a fair bit - and I'd deffo keep him, but not enough skill for a 6 long term IMO.
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| Quote ="wildcatowl"Ive been on here long enough to realise that alot of users look at Wakey with red,white and blue tinted glasses. I, on the other hand speak as i see.
Disagree if you want, but i never know which Tim Smith will cross the white wash, and to be blatantly honest i dont think Agar or Smith himself does.'"
I can see where my Owl friend is coming from though.
I personally think TS does bring a lot & is an important player in this team, so this is a good move IMO - but he does have quite a few nightmare moments and can be extremely frustrating.
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| Like any good half back tim will pick his moments to run the ball and when he does he usually picks the right time. We don't need a half back to attack the line all the time. To me that's just asking to be clobbered and without him we will look lost. He may not be a decent defender but is not one who give up as he did chasing George to the corner on sunday made sure it was outwide.
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| Good news he's been good for us.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I remember when he was the young player of the year he was offered 250 grand a season for someboday. I remember reading it when we signed him.'"
Generally I agree. He shows real class at times but is playing (bored with saying it) behind a beaten pack. And he is really not the sort of half who can take the big guys on, loike Danny Brough can; more the silky smooth passer and link to the strong centres kind of guy (which we are also less than well endowed with). But I would keep him and bring in players that compliment a king pin like he might be. I could see it working
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| Great news - he's been one of our best overall this season, despite an uncertain start.
Whomever suggested that he's only had 2 decent games must be watching a different team to the one I watch every week - that's total claptrap.
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| Quote ="metallicat"I can see where my Owl friend is coming from though.
I personally think TS does bring a lot & is an important player in this team, so this is a good move IMO - but he does have quite a few nightmare moments and can be extremely frustrating.'"
The person that never does anything never makes a mistake. I think this extension is brilliant for both club and player. What he does do more than makes up for anything that doesent come off for him.
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