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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"What happened to this class player Lee Smith that the Leeds fans were telling us how lucky we were to get? He was pants during the 1st 20 minutes when the rest of the guys were holding their own.
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In all fairness he has only been at the club a couple of days so you can't expect too much from him. Having said that it was a strange debut performance and he did not look too enthusiastic about being at Wakefield.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Great crowd, great following from Wigan. Some fantastic rugby by Wigan, a great team to watch and lovely tries that simply needed applauding. Sam Tompkins is just a sublime player. I thought for 15 minutes we had a real go, we tried to ruffle a few feathers. Wigan were to good but we did our best to help them. We just do not seem to have enough brains in the side, we kept forcingthe pass and giving the ball to Wigan. Plenty of effort but not not enough understanding of how to play the game.
Thought Fox and Cockayne were good, Amor was our best forward.
My gripes for the day are : why when Kirmond was getting his backside handed to him on a plate did we not either swoop Lee Smith , who did a good job on Goulding, with him. Or why not take Kirmond of and put Walshaw in the centre. Walshaw and Trout again not given enough game time, both were doing a great job in defence but got so little game time. Trout had fire in his belly today. Leave them on the pitch. Why do we keep persisting with Wood, he is just not good enough.'"
my gripe is ball retention and a poor kicking game the completion rate was a joke and has being for most of the season on the few occasions we did put a decent kick in the chase was poor the kick in the 2nd half a classic example when Tonkins got a pen a result of players stopping thinking the ball was dead he should have being nailed
Kirmond was clearly unfit and should not have played Smith had a very bad day at the office and Wood what is Agar looking at the Ellis situation is nothing short of a disgrace
Ben,Amor,Aiton and Fox all did well shocked a bit that Fox appears to have lost his pace when clear in the 2nd half and should have cut inside Trout needs more game time
Yes Wigan were the better team a good team made to look world beaters mainly due to us giving them the ball time and time again cut this out and the score is respectable 52 points at home is a disgrace the buck stops with P poor coaching Andrew Glover is doing a great job but please wake up before the season ends and get rid of Agar he is the weakest link
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In all fairness he has only been at the club a couple of days so you can't expect too much from him. Having said that it was a strange debut performance and he did not look too enthusiastic about being at Wakefield.'"
Send him back and give the kids a chance
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| It typified our season. Lots of fizz, lots of effort, but no reward. Wigan were good when they woke up, but we looked a beaten side during the second half. It was a pleasure to watch the double-kick try by Tomkins. Couldn't help but applaud that. Absolute class.
The side needs more than a couple of additions. I don't think the pack needs too many additions, because it is young and strong, but the backs do not provide much of a threat. Plenty of effort, but nowhere is there any real threat.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It typified our season. Lots of fizz, lots of effort, but no reward. Wigan were good when they woke up, but we looked a beaten side during the second half. It was a pleasure to watch the double-kick try by Tomkins. Couldn't help but applaud that. Absolute class.
The side needs more than a couple of additions. I don't think the pack needs too many additions, because it is young and strong, but the backs do not provide much of a threat. Plenty of effort, but nowhere is there any real threat.'"
Totally agree with this Slugger.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In all fairness he has only been at the club a couple of days so you can't expect too much from him. Having said that it was a strange debut performance and he did not look too enthusiastic about being at Wakefield.'"
Exactly. This needs explaining to the stupid woman sat in the stand screaming for him to "pack your bags and get back to Leeds" 3 mins into the second half. Is this a record, 43 mins into a debut???
As poor as we were, and as much as a none event it turned into, some of the things getting shouted (mainly from folk sat in the east stand!) were just daft. It was embarrassing!
Tim Smith was getting abused everytime he touched the ball by a few in there. The guy is one of only a couple of players we have that has a little bit of extra class but he cant win the games on his own and certainly not when Ollie goes back to the days when he cant hold the ball and we have a completion rate well below average.
On another note has Jamie Rooney been giving Ben lessons on kick offs?
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"Exactly. This needs explaining to the stupid woman sat in the stand screaming for him to "pack your bags and get back to Leeds" 3 mins into the second half. Is this a record, 43 mins into a debut???
As poor as we were, and as much as a none event it turned into, some of the things getting shouted (mainly from folk sat in the west stand!) were just daft. It was embarrassing!
Tim Smith was getting abused everytime he touched the ball by a few in there. The guy is one of only a couple of players we have that has a little bit of extra class but he cant win the games on his own and certainly not when Ollie goes back to the days when he cant hold the ball and we have a completion rate well below average.
On another note has Jamie Rooney been giving Ben lessons on kick offs?'"
West stand we wish
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In all fairness he has only been at the club a couple of days so you can't expect too much from him. Having said that it was a strange debut performance and he did not look too enthusiastic about being at Wakefield.'"
He did not sound too enthusiastic either on the interview on Wildcats TV on Thursday. Heard a rumour yesterday that he doesn't actually want to be here and wanted to go to Hull KR. I can't see the point of him being here to be honest. Our season is shot, surely it is time to give Cowling, Grayston a shot and see if they're up to it - let's be honest neither of them can be any worse than Smith was yesterday.
If he's here to put himself in the shop window he didn't do himself any favours yesterday.
Time for a complete change I think for Huddersfield.
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| Put Wildie in there instead of John and I may be tempted to go and watch that team against shudds
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| Isn't Cowling still recovering from injury? That said I agree its time to shake it up a bit and see what a few guys can do. Guys like Ben Kaye who got thrown in at Wigan, did ok and hasn't been seen again, Matt James who looked like he had something to offer then disappeared and Walshaw & Trout need an extended chance to show what they can do. Same goes for Andy Ellis who has to be a better bet than the championship-standard Kyle Wood. The season is now an uninspiring battle for 11th, we may as well see what these guys have to offer.
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| I was dubious about putting Smith straight into the side for a number of reasons. Lack of first team action, limited time with new team mates and more importantly it sends the wrong message out to the fringe players who are busting a gut to get in the match day squad that the coach does not rate you.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I was dubious about putting Smith straight into the side for a number of reasons. Lack of first team action, limited time with new team mates and more importantly it sends the wrong message out to the fringe players who are busting a gut to get in the match day squad that the coach does not rate you.'"
but he clearly doesn't rate them. There is no implied message there.
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| Quote ="PopTart"but he clearly doesn't rate them. There is no implied message there.'"
Or, for the sake of balance, that he didn't want to throw them to the wolves by putting them out against the most brutal and clinical side in SL?
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| If you bring a bloke in on loan for only a month you have to play him otherwise why bother getting him.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"If you bring a bloke in on loan for only a month you have to play him otherwise why bother getting him.'"
Either bring players in for a longer period or not at all in my view. If it’s a short term injury then use the squad, that’s what it’s there for. Smith has been playing u20’s football, same as the fringe squad so his level of performance is hardly going to be much more than they they’re at currently.
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| we was truley out played by a better team but there is at least 12 teams in league better than us.andrew glover has done a great job at the club but crowds will start to dwindle while that muppet is coaching us action needs to be done we where better last season whith a on paper a lesser squad,
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| Quote ="jack in the box"If you bring a bloke in on loan for only a month you have to play him otherwise why bother getting him.'"
If you bring a bloke in from the start of the season on a hefty contract and then send him off to play champ rugby then you either have an issue with him or you are clueless.
Ellis is a quallity player and is better than Wood/Wildie but can't get a game.
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| He has obviously done something or can't/won't do something that the coach asks. There can be no other logical reason due to agars priority of having to pick the best side to win games. I doubt we'll ever find out, but I'd doubt it's a clash of personalities, you don't have to like someone to work with them
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| Agar has his favourites and always picks em,not interested in youth policy,or anybody else s signings [sorry mr elston fact under qualified and over payed 70k a year utter madness sort it out please!
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| Quote ="El Rey"If you bring a bloke in from the start of the season on a hefty contract and then send him off to play champ rugby then you either have an issue with him or you are clueless.
Ellis is a quallity player and is better than Wood/Wildie but can't get a game.'"
Spot on.
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| Thought we were right up there with them for the first 20 minutes, even had them somewhat rattled at one stage. Couple of great hits from Aiton on Lauaki and Tomkins. Could have had a few more points in the first half with a bit more composure.
Second half was a case of being totally outclassed!
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Thought we were right up there with them for the first 20 minutes, even had them somewhat rattled at one stage. Couple of great hits from Aiton on Lauaki and Tomkins. Could have had a few more points in the first half with a bit more composure.
Second half was a case of being totally outclassed!'"
Wasn't it Raleigh that left Lauaki on the deck after a big hit?
I agree though - we were up in their faces in the first 20 and stifled a lot of their plays; conversely, we seemed to panic when the line was in sight and as a result, made some poor decisions or executed good decisions poorly.
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