and yes, he can kick.

You are Mrs Smith and I calim my £5

There's nothing wrong with an opinion, so why isn't he playing for England and how on earth can the Rhinos do without him.
The guy is a good player, but you've gone a little too far over the top on this one

I was waiting for this sort of response.
I dont agree with you with regards to the 2 players aforementioned although I dont disagree he could
be a good signing.

You really spoiled a potential debate by crying and throwing your teddy out of the cot.

If you consider that throwing teddy out of cot, by gum you must be a sensitive soul.



I actually purposely worded that way in order to wait for Vastman to come on with his usual vitriol.

I didn't even word it bad. Never put your players down or critisised them. Like I said, sensitive.

I think Smith is a decent utility back,but to state hes "way above the quality of any other player" is a tad wide of the mark.



[uCould Aiton play any of the back positions better than Smith? No, and I bet Smith would make a better shot at Hooker (which he is actually very good at) than Aiton would at fullback.[/u

Applying your weird logic i think Smith could cover the back positions better than Sam Thaiday ..........but do you seriously believe that would make Smith way above the quality of Thaiday?
If he oozes so much quality why would a mediocre Leeds team let him go?

Not really. You are whining.

How strange.

Because his face doesn't fit, and he hasn't done enough to push himself in front of other players.

On your argument why on earth is Amor not playing for England? or indeed was considered not good enough for the Rhinos. Or why isn't Aiton playing for his country?

By contrast, the players in front of Smith for a jersey are of course playing for their countries.

If you are going to quote someboy, then do it properly. I never said what you have put. I said "way above the quality of player =#FF0000you currently have".

Whine whine whine.

Got to agree with Gotcha, Smith adds proven class to our squad, he should improve our defence no end. Lets be fair whatever position we play him in, wing, centre or full back his defence will be better than we have been used to watching this season. Remember we are leaking 30 points a match on average and I get the impression that most of these are have been scored through our centres / wing defence. It will help that he can catch the ball. That said I am not going to judge him from what happens against Wigan as they can thump anyone.

I'm very happy with the loan signing of Lee Smith and I think he will add to our squad.

Just a minor point I thought Paul Aiton played for and Captained his Country.

We're talking about Paul Aiton, the guy who captained Papua New Guinea in the 2010 Four Nations here. Which Aiton are you on about?

Then I will take it back then. On the proviso that it is accepted that my 88 year old gran would have a shot at playing for Papua New Guinea. Granted, captain might be beyond though.

He's just a ill informed, mis-guided troll looking for a bite.

Unfortunately he is right about Amor though, certainly no where near good enough to compete with Griffin, Moore or Bailey for a front row spot.
I now hoping he's not Mrs Smith and that in fact he's Brian McDermott

I'm a ST holder a Leeds and he has been terrible this year, it could only be disciplinary reason as to why he has was selected ahead of BJB quite often this season!! He could have been a truly brilliant player had he not moved to union but has only had 1 good game since he came back and that was he second debut against Bradford when he scored twice in a drawn game!!

Havnt seen much of wakey this year but judging by Mathers performance against Leeds this season and think Smith will be better than him, just. I have nagging feeling he could thrive at a with all due respect lesser club. He can be a really good player if he sorts himself out, but at the moment he is a below average SL player!!

Just a minor point, before you get so defensive you curl up in a furry little ball. Where have I talked about Amor not been good enough to compete with those players?

I simply said Smith is a better quality player than you have. One of your posters brought up Amor, and I still never critisised him. I just pointed out that by his logic of Smith been released by Leeds, then did not the same happen with Amor.

Yet my statement still stands even with you added,your logic trying to justify that Smith is "way above" in terms of quality of [uany[/uplayer we currently have is wide of the mark.Smith is a competent utility back,but to suggest he is "way above the quality" than say Paul Aiton is quite frankly absurd.

You dont have a clue what you are talking about, have you ever seen Aiton play? The guy is quality and i would`nt be suprised to see a couple of top clubs showing interest in him.

Lets not kid ourselves.

He has been all those things in the past, but in the last 2 seasons at best he's been average. The reason he has found himself in the reserves is because he hasn't performed good enough and BJB, Hardaker, and Watkins have all overtaken him.

The ball is in his court. This is a good opportunity for him, and if he takes it and regains some form he might have a future at Leeds. If not, I think McDermott will have finally lost patience with him, he put his confidence in him at the start of the year and for a period in the middle by playing him ahead of BJB, but put simply, Smith was awfull.

He had an offer on the table from Cronulla, And if you go by what the aussies were saying on the NRL board many of them belive he was up to scratch to play NRL rugby. The guy captains his country - Lee smith can`t get into a mid league superleague side? Based on that you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Your argument makes no sense what so ever anyway

Better than Aiton, Smith, Ali (remember him) and a few more - give your thick head a shake. However he is a very good player and still fairly young.

Gotcha obviously hasnt seen enough of Aiton and must have forgotten all about the Legend that is Big Ali .

If true , could be a shrewd signing.

Its true, see the Website

Is this the kind of toilet that makes you a celeb on the Leeds board, or are you just as unpopular there after 10,000 posts as you've made yourself here, in just one afternoon?

My personal observation is that Lee Smith is lacking fitness and appears to have a poor attitude; I guess being loaned to lowly Wakefield will either make or break him - it's certainly within his gift to be a great player, but he has some work to do - I hope he does it.