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| I wonder if he can be demoted? Would it be worth giving him to the end of season and then if no improvement bringing in someone like noble and keeping Richard as his assistant.
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| Quote ="supercat"I wonder if he can be demoted? Would it be worth giving him to the end of season and then if no improvement bringing in someone like noble and keeping Richard as his assistant.'"
Why does this name keep coming up Noble is the last coach this club needs
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| Noble is going to Bradford...the problem is he has lost the respect of the players! There is nothing there our defence is pants our attack consists of 3 moves and the effort is appalling. How long are people going to put up with it? The Catalan game was good for the first half but we nearly gave it away in the second. I am sick of excuses and sick of his crap team selections.
It's just not good enough by agar or the players
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| Quote ="BigDog"
It's just not good enough by agar or the players'"
In my opinion its more so the players than Agar. In all fairness to the bloke some of the better signings are down to him and the poor ones someone else. For instance he did a good bit of business sending Tommy Lee to Shudds and getting Wood. Like wise our only good overseas players Collis and Aiton are also his.
I think where people have a genuine gripe are in two basic areas.
1. His technical knowledge of the game may be good but he may lack the communication skills to pass it on to the players and motivate them. I really believe if Glenn Morrison had not suffered that injury and was still captain at the club his leadership on the field would have rubbed off on to the team and Agar would be having a much better time.
2. He is frustrating the supporters by appearing too loyal to non performing players and sticking to some baffling tactics. He has probably given somethings a little more time than they deserve. However the blokes hands are tied over the Easter period due to the amount and intensity of the fixtures. I will judge the bloke on this one when I see what he selects from the available players once this period is over.
I think giving him 3 years was madness. However I also think its too early to make a decision, therefore not voting on this one yet.
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| Quote ="El Rey"I've tried to get this message across and i fully agree, unless fans get some info it won't stop rightly or wrongly.
I don't think it would do any harm, infact it could do nothing but good for AG to speak to the fans on this.
Not voting.'"
Give over, that's like Captain_Library saying he's Ollie Elima.
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| No point voting. Good or bad; it's done and that's all there is
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| Overall i don't rate him but he probably deserves the chance to prove himself for a bit longer yet. But if the same problems still persist in 6 or 7 weeks time my patience will have worn very thin. For me he's got until we play cas at the Etihad on magic weekend to show that he is improving us.
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| Well for me I was willing to give Agar the benefit knowing what his former boss is like with the husband.It does appear that Agar is running out of ideas and time lets face it we have a side that should be doing well.Good win over Widnes a good game against KR that with a bit more luck could have gone our way.A great first half v Bradford and should have been in front but rubbish second half.To come away from the KC 14 - 10 with the defending we had to do was good.Hudds game didnt let any one down.Warrington a real good go and so near so far.Catalan great first half then hung on for win.London and Cas what the heavens happened that was total rubbish.Then todays game he drops Smith and keeps John well for me Smiths been the better of the two by some way.It wont be long before the shouts for him out will gain more momentum and the non season ticket fans go do other things.
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| things were looking good up until the london game, so we have shown good potential. But it seams like in the last 3 games that no ones really that bothered any more (although i didnt go to wigan, but we cant say we didnt expect to get beat!). Somethings obviously not quite right in the changing room
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| Chill out, give him time.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In my opinion its more so the players than Agar. In all fairness to the bloke some of the better signings are down to him and the poor ones someone else. For instance he did a good bit of business sending Tommy Lee to Shudds and getting Wood. Like wise our only good overseas players Collis and Aiton are also his.
I think where people have a genuine gripe are in two basic areas.
1. His technical knowledge of the game may be good but he may lack the communication skills to pass it on to the players and motivate them. I really believe if Glenn Morrison had not suffered that injury and was still captain at the club his leadership on the field would have rubbed off on to the team and Agar would be having a much better time.
2. He is frustrating the supporters by appearing too loyal to non performing players and sticking to some baffling tactics. He has probably given somethings a little more time than they deserve. However the blokes hands are tied over the Easter period due to the amount and intensity of the fixtures. I will judge the bloke on this one when I see what he selects from the available players once this period is over.
I think giving him 3 years was madness. However I also think its too early to make a decision, therefore not voting on this one yet.'"
Excellent post imo.
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| Smith was nursing a few knocks, thats why he didn't play les goose
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| Quote ="jack in the box"I really believe if Glenn Morrison had not suffered that injury and was still captain at the club his leadership on the field would have rubbed off on to the team and Agar would be having a much better time.'"
Just posted something similar in the Steve Southern thread.
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| Lol.....ok who are the 21 who thinks Agar is doing a good job
This only confirms that certain fans are totally happy with less than mediocrity
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"Lol.....ok who are the 21 who thinks Agar is doing a good job
This only confirms that certain fans are totally happy with less than mediocrity'"
Two posts, both with idiotic smiley faces laughing at your own jokes, neither of which were remotely funny to begin with.
Sod off Roy - you're worse than the other Leeds troll who pops in every now and again.
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"Lol.....ok who are the 21 who thinks Agar is doing a good job
This only confirms that certain fans are totally happy with less than mediocrity'"
No, it only confirms that you have no idea of how to interpret the results of meaningless straw polls. Based on your last contribution to this board, that doesn't surprise me.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Agar total garbage at hull hes been given brass kear never had and after 8 rounds done jack all for us . Agar out.The clan uses the typical excuse time to gel ; how many london players are new this year ? = many ! They beat us 36-0! Come on hes had 5 month to make us gel. Hes not good enough !'"
Oops.
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| Shall we run the poll again? Compare and contrast results?
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| I can feel another "humble pie" race coming on
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| I said give him until end of season and then judge him. He's over acheived already in my books and should be carry on as normal. His mid season signings have proven very shrewd and put us in a fantastic position.
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| I was very anti Agar but now I would take him home and let him sleep with my sister. I bet he is feeling very smug if he ever looks at the comments on this forum.
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| I said support him. There were only a few lone voices at the time saying this, partly because the anti Agar voices were so loud and aggresive about it in my opinion.
I'm disappointed so many followed what the Hull fans said rather than supporting the club decision for at least a season.
And what's worse, if he loses a few games at the beginning if next season I can see this poll being brought out again.
I'd never want to do his job.
And I have a lot of respect for the ones who are coming back on here saying they were wrong.......but there is a lot that are staying quiet and ironically they were the loudest.
Man up guys! Admit you got it wrong.
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| Actually reading through the posts on here, there were a lot of sensible comments rather than than just the Agar out briggade.
Saying that there are a few stand outs:
Not a bad comment but how profetic was this comment by The Boyem:
Quote ="Theboyem"There's that ill informed comment again. Maybe if people were informed they'd be cutting a bit more slack, but without that info he's going to cop it i'm afraid!
FWIW we are stuck with him this year come what may but we need to see improvements on the last two pathetic performances. [size=150He's got til the magic weekend to pull it round [/sizebecause if we keep losing and then get touched up by Cas again then it will get very uncomfortable for him.'"
And how wrong was this (no offense meant for picking you out Tricky):
Quote ="Tricky2309"*snip* That said, I think we have to be realistic in that as a minimum he will be given a year by the BOD.
My only concern is whether attendances both for this year and next year will be dramatically affected by his continued employment. Unfortunately, I think they will, with a double whammy for next season, as I think they will need to raise the season ticket prices. Consequently, we will have less people buying season tickets; others who won't want to pay extra for them; and other types of member and walk up fans not bothering, all due to results and performances.
*snip*.'"
But this
Quote ="Micka"Should add Jimmy to the list of GET RID OF !!!!'"
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Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Agar total garbage at hull hes been given brass kear never had and after 8 rounds done jack all for us . Agar out.The clan uses the typical excuse time to gel ; how many london players are new this year ? = many ! They beat us 36-0! Come on hes had 5 month to make us gel. Hes not good enough !'"
are classics!
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| Quote ="PopTart"Actually reading through the posts on here, there were a lot of sensible comments rather than than just the Agar out briggade.
Saying that there are a few stand outs:
Not a bad comment but how profetic was this comment by The Boyem:
And how wrong was this (no offense meant for picking you out Tricky):
But this
and this
are classics!'"
In all seriousness I chose option two. At the time of the poll our performances were getting worse and it was difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel. But Agar also deserved to be given the chance and the time to sort it out and thankfully he did. Lets hope he carries on in the same vein as the latter half of the season for the whole year next time out!
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| I voted two. How right was I In all seriousness, all new teams need time to gel and we have proven that given time we are a competitive side. Only London away and Wigan at home have been real beatings as far as I can remember!
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