Field position. To be honest the defence has been awful which has contributed.

8000 plus crowd I thinks. 50 from Huddersfield

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That's not like us so far this season. 8794 it says on the bar on the forum, good crowd.

give them time to gel

.......how long is Agars contract ?

WAC

At a guess longer than your SL coaching contract, so do one.

And the rugby league experts at Headingly were saying what about McDermott this time last year?

ah bless

its not too bad...... giants only had O'Donnell, George, Robinson, Fa'alogo, Mason, and Ferguson out ! and played 2 hookers and a centre on the bench

LOL, said it before WAC.

the big difference is mediocrity is not acceptable at headingley, mediocrity is a bonus at wakey

Thanks for that gem, you know you have failed in life when you having nothing better to do than troll.

Ignore the poor troll. His life must be so empty.

Displayed your low intelligence there because your argument is illogical. It was your tolerance of mediocrity that kept McDermott in a job and won you the title. If the board had followed you intolerant lot, he would have been fired and that would have been it.

couldnt agree more, mcdermott is a crap coach he just had quality players to get him over the line, unfortunately Agar the same without the quality....simples

So a poor coach with a super league title and a world club title under his belt within 12 months? You are just odd.

Were Leeds 1 and 4 straight after a poor pre-season friendly run? For me 6 straight defeats and questions will be asked.

I felt today our line defence is poor due to confidence reasons and our half backs are stealing a living, they can't pass straight. Every pass our forwards have to stretch behind them to get the ball. No wonder we don't have any players bothering to run onto it.

We need a kicker, only Agar can't see this. We did well when we attacked Shudds right flank but we still pounded it up the middle most of the time against a bigger side who do have props.

Aiton, Mathers and Cockayne show desire and I'm sure Fox would if we ever passed him the ball.

If I was the coach and I'm not then I'd be knocking on Hickey and Gareth Moore's doors and perhaps showing John and the woeful Southern the door.

Can't take you seriously after that.

Bitterly disappointed today Ithought we lacked some composure in the first half in attack and when we should have punished them we made mistakes, something that Huddersfield did to us was punish penalties etc.

I thought the ref had a poor game, his whistle must be teaming with mucus the length of time its been in his moth today, some very dubious decisions and game breakers.

Not consulting when John went in under the posts I thought it was stripped and should have been play on. The penalty on thgeir 20 when they broke and he gave a head high, the amount of not square that he let go for both teams until it was all over.

Finally the RFL needs to grip this wrestling around the ruck we were slowed down almost every tackle today, we need to rid the game of this its spoiling it, Hudds were masters today as soon as they knoew Child wasnt interested in the ruck they manipulated it the whole game. Take it back down under please.

Great crowd today

In the second half most of the time if Collis passed to Fox Hudds would put him into touch.

Shame you can't even get your trolling right, maybe take a look at the teamsheets nobhed

I am disappointed but trying to remain positive. I think we desperately need amor back now as an enforcer up front as the southern at prop has run it's course.

Wood was targeted for easy yards and was picked out many a time.

The goal line defence could have been better.

As for the ref well.. I thought he had a fair influence today as far as field position went when there were 4 points in it. His penalty for not square after 60 mins and not one given despite it happening all game from both teams was poor. Was very surprised the wrestling on the floor from giants was given so much time by the ref, but their wrestling tactics worked albeit looked untidy.

We need to start winning games soon. Some players need to play smarter. There were times men were drawn and hoods defence stretched but we decided to drive it into a man.

Pretty happy with John as he was getting involved and sent some good passes out when we were camped on their 20.

Have to disagree with that...the only time Hudds defence were drawn was when Cockayne got the ball and dragged two defenders over the line for his first try, and then scooted around their out-of-position winger for his other two.

We are throwing the ball around more than we did last year, but it is all lateral. We do not appear to have anyone that is capable of breaking a tackle (again !!). Lautiiti tried too hard in the first 15 minutes and lost the ball twice, and then seemed to go into his shell.

Smith, John and Wood all tried, but in the first half it was all to slow and predictable. It got quicker in the second half, but was still ineffective. We are just not turning possession and pressure into points !!!

Effort is there but I have to say the halfbacks and both centres can go home for me John offers nothing Mellers is poor and Collis cant pass a ball the less we say about Smith the better we have done it again signing overseas players who clearly are no better than out home grown players

We need some grunt up front and we have got to cut out the pens

our kicking game is lousy and the goal kickers



Agar is a number 2 and most of us can see that the problem is he got a 3 year contract for me Mr Elston should pay the bill he should never have being given the job he is a lousy coach

rant over long week to come cant make Wire

I thought it was a positive performance today and if a few things had gone another way then who knows we may even had sneaked a win!

We matched an established top six side for long, long periods and had some very good field position....we must have forced about 5/6 goal line drop-outs which is a huge positive.

People can come on here and troll all they like, it's easy to do when all you see is a final result, going to the game you see a different picture (well I do anyway).

I don't think anyone can ask much more, the players are certainly putting it in for me and it's going to take time, it's an entirely new side and today was only their 5th game together. We look not too bad in defence for the most part, we have no problem gaining good field position and territory, just lacking that extra spark to get us over the line and capitalise on our good build up and field position.

I think that will come as the season goes on though....every game I see a few little more positives and certainly something for us to build on. Confidence is key....if they stick together and keep their heads up, things will fall into place I reckon....patience is key for the next few months.

We need a goalkicker asap! Heard the rumours regarding Paul Sykes, don't know if they're true or not but it's imperative we get one in and qucikly....you cannot afford to not have a good goalkicker in this day and age and the fact we've signed a complete new team and not got one is a bit odd really!

Agree with a couple of posters regarding a couple of decisions aswell....the killer one for me was when we got back in the game at 14-18 and were on top and having a good spell.....2 good tackles and putting Huddersfield right under pressure on their own line and the referee decides to pull us for not marking square when both sides had been doing it all game before that without being penalised....that was a huge call and swung the game for me. Also thought when Isaac John went over it could have been interesting if there had been the screen there to go to...another crucial point in the game.

Anyway, not too downhearted tonight, a positive display for me against a very good side who now sit top of the table.....an excellent crowd at 8,700+.

Have to say aswell, best following from Hudds I think I've ever seen at Belle Vue!