Surprised to see Vievers get a SL contract so yes probably cover. 10th is possible as generally the gap between 13-10 is only a win or 2.

Lots of people tipping us for the spoon on total el like every year but we fin 13 last year and this year we have had a few hundred thousand more invested in our squad, improving off-field and retained the success of 2011 (Johnson, Moriano and Amor).

Will be an interesting season for a few teams.

Then it's clear that you have either never been to a game or only started watching last season. There have been many far worse than him and we still have one or two on the books IMO.

Agreed he is far from the worst player who has ever pulled on the jersey, just lacked pace and a bit of confidence. Championship will probably end up as his level but he will always be a handy player for someone because of his goalkicking ability. In a year of few points he was our top points scorer so he wasn't all bad by any means, just not what we need if we are to move up a level.

Out of pure curiosity, who do you think are the players we still have who are worse than him? I can think of possibly Hyde (at stand off that is, at fullback it might have been a different matter) but I think the rest of the dead wood has been cleared out.

I'd rather not name names I'll leave the victimising of individuals to NGB4C. I don't mind Hyde but he is one who has a bit to prove yet, more a S/O than a F/B for me but we will have to differ on that one. Every new player we have or ever have signed is a gamble that is a universal truth so they are all in the "could be the worst player ever" catagory.

Just because he is young and inexperienced doesn't mean he is good. He is far and far away from SL standard he was lucky to earn a living in SL . Is it because his Dad is a former player? You cannot have been to any games if you think Hyde is a better stand off. A stand off that cant tackle, pass or kick. Some of the posts of yours I agree with some I don't thats how it is. A forum is for expressing honesty and opinion. Sometimes I may go too far and I do apologise I just think Vievers is very lucky to be a SL player .

You said he was the worst when he simply isn't. I also said IMO Hyde is more a S/O than a F/B, I never said he was especially good at either. That said he is not on my list, he has some time yet to develop if he sets his mind to it.

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... lford.html hmmmmm

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... lford.html hmmmmm

Wasnt he born and bred over here anyway? Is this parker talking complete and utter ballcocks yet again?

Is that right the kid was thrown in at the deep end last season and gave 100% in every game he played I am not saying he was a SL player but he is still young and could still make the grade

He nowhere near the worst player to pull on the red white and blue not by a long way and I wish the kid well hope he makes it at Salford

My thoughts exactly.