Sort the half backs out the yes.

Because at Melbourne he plays next to Cooper Cronk in the halves. Cronk is the organiser of the pair, with widdop doing the running off of the back of that. But personally, I would prefer to see Widdop starting but I dont really know if we have another half to play alongside him. Rangi Chase had a shocker against Aus, Sinfield wouldnt be anywhere near my halves and I dont think we have another organising half in our squad. Would of like to have seen Brough and Widdop have a crack together though.

To beat the kiwi's we need to iron out our defence, get close on the halves, and turn pressure into point.. something we seem to struggle with.

Fingers Crossed!

That's the magic combination for me - I think they'd combine really well.

I'm not sure how I feel about watching Rangi line up against the man who was partially responsible for turning him English, but I can't help thinking that he's going to get schooled; as I said on the Cas board, Chase was made from the bits that were left over when god created Benji.

I hope he proves me wrong, but I can't see it.

What about something radical like playing a scrum-half at 7, a stand off at 6 and a loose forward at 13, maybe even use 4 props over the 80 minutes? Nah, can`t see that ever working...........

Are you mental?

Absolutely ridiculous. Next you'll be suggesting that we make sure the players wearing those ENGLAND shirts are ENGLISH.

You sir are a crackpot!!!!!!

At least Roger will have plenty to prove and hopefully this will bring out the best in him.
However, if he has a great game, what are the chances of NZ trying to claim him back.

Tickets booked for Saturday, going to be a great atmosphere at the KC with over 20000 tickets sold.

Might go to the final, if it its gonna be a game, so thats if its Aus v NZ.

Thing is if we do a job on the Kiwis today (which I think we will), I really cant see us getting close to Aus.
Just more false hope.

Can we beat the Kiwi's?

IMO: No, not with the coach we have.

You sound like a FC fan, trying to blame Agar is not on

Macnamara and Agar may be related

that's got to have gone down as one of the grittiest games England has performed in years and should take all the plaudits for it, at one stage 16 -6 I actually thought it would go the kiwis way as they did look threatening.

I'm looking forward to the final as I hope they for once realise the do have a chance if they play like that, the ten mins will be vital

well done lads

Well they have a A AND R in their names

Well done England and to Tomkins on scoring, the got up the NZ noses lol

Turns out McNamara can coach after all!

Sorry Steve for all the foul things I've said about you

what you said about me

I've said foul things about you, but I ain't sorry

NZ were gash, more like a Sunday morning side than the team that won the comp last year!

Bit harsh on us, that. I thought our pack was immense. Just bullied them off the park.

I was just pleased that i managed to watch it live here in the states
hadn't realised Fox sports was showing the 4 nations until I turned it on last week to see the interviews at end of Aussie game. Really looking forward to watching final next week and hoping this means they might show super league games next season

Yes NZ didn't play well but I think that was mainly down to us not giving them a inch and when they tried to gain a little momentum in the second half we quickly put a halt to it and pulled away from them. He may be a little get but there's no denying the more you watch Tompkins the more he impresses you, they all played well today, should have maybe scored more points in the first half but still.