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Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561
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Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"The yorkshire post article very well put by Mr Elston. Everytime ive heard this guy speak I have been impressed come on its not a easy job. I know what a good idea is lets slate the RFL like mad before Tuesday and lets see where that will get us... Come on chaps use your loafs. Vasty you are still caught up with the most hated figure in Wakefield you have got to let your love connection with Ted and his Marks And Spencer suits go.. Come on Vasty its over move on find another lover!'"
I'm never quite sure how Elston isn't tagged as part of the old regime. He's still the puppet, just Glover pulls the strings now not Richardson. What's his background and his qualifications other than having played the game? If we questioned Di's role, why not him.
Being a good talker and spinning stories…he's just Richard Wright isn't he but without able to convince as many?
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| Quote ="merlin"Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.'"
which of course can be duly dismissed as a subjective judgement of somebody that hasn't read them all and with a vested interest in our being a success.
what a way to run a sport.
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Quote ="merlin"Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561'"
Confirmation the club will be at BV if/when they're demoted to the CC.
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Quote ="merlin"Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561'"
Confirmation the club will be at BV if/when they're demoted to the CC.
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Quote ="merlin"Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561'"
Good luck pal ive been trying for weeks majority on here think we are allready done and would rather cry into their soups unfortunatly.
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Quote ="merlin"Regardless of who loves who etc the message contained in this article is that we have not got the worst application of the 14 clubs, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be shouting this message to anyone who will listen over the next few days.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3591561'"
Good luck pal ive been trying for weeks majority on here think we are allready done and would rather cry into their soups unfortunatly.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I'm never quite sure how Elston isn't tagged as part of the old regime. He's still the puppet, just Glover pulls the strings now not Richardson. What's his background and his qualifications other than having played the game? If we questioned Di's role, why not him.
Being a good talker and spinning stories…he's just Richard Wright isn't he but without able to convince as many?'"
Its always puzzled me too, hooker turned Marketing Manager (I think), promoted to Cue Card reader (sorry CE). Im sure theres many ex players out there who would love to have a CV like his so quickly.
Same applies to his wife, Castleford Tigers dancer come Zoo Magazine model. Moves to dance with Wakefield allegedly had a fall out with many of the other main girls from many years ago who left because she was favoured in all the main decisions (maybe had something to do with her relationship). And then becomes Community Manager or something.
However before anyone has a go, Im not having a pop at her as far as I understand she does a really good job in her role. Just feel if we do get kicked out, they will both depart the sinking ship to pastures new without a moments hesitation.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"The yorkshire post article very well put by Mr Elston. Everytime ive heard this guy speak I have been impressed come on its not a easy job. I know what a good idea is lets slate the RFL like mad before Tuesday and lets see where that will get us... Come on chaps use your loafs. [size=150Vasty you are still caught up with the most hated figure in Wakefield you have got to let your love connection with Ted and his Marks And Spencer suits go.. Come on Vasty its over move on find another lover[/size!'"
Bet you can't see any irony in what you have posted can you
Ted has nothing to do with what Glover and Elston are now doing. Though it was Ted who gave Elston the job he now has Bet you forgot that he was a BIG part of the old regime, you clot.
Open your eyes man - I mean all the OTT banging of drum stuff you do is fine as far as it goes - as are you're relentless Ted jibes every time I post something you don't like- but occasionally you have to make touch with reality. Over the last 6 month, rightly or wrongly as I'm not judging on this occasion WTRLFC has been systematically downsized to be a Championship team. Revenue streams especially those that yield a steady source of income have been increased but all spending let alone increased spending on product has virtually ceased - what does that tell you - ZERO INVESTMENT. It's gone IMO way beyond holding back and waiting for the franchise result, we are shutting down as a SL club for the time being at least.
I think AG would choke on his rich tea if we actually got a franchise as we appear to have made absolutely no attempt to prepare for another SL season. Forget about the ground improvements on offer, SL IMO won't fall for that. We do have a very slim chance of a franchise but IMO it will be for reasons way beyond the clubs control.
I'm not saying what he is doing is wrong, it's not a criticism - it's a statement of the bl**ding obvious to anyone was the ability to read between the lines. The theory I assume is to go into hybernation until NM is on line, whether that's a good idea only history will tell.
So drop the Ted crap and fight all your natural urges and discuss as an adult - where am I wrong?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I'm never quite sure how Elston isn't tagged as part of the old regime. He's still the puppet, just Glover pulls the strings now not Richardson. What's his background and his qualifications other than having played the game? If we questioned Di's role, why not him.
Being a good talker and spinning stories…he's just Richard Wright isn't he but without able to convince as many?'"
He is by most people with a brain, NGB4C is a bandwagon jumper with a selective memory who just shouts whatever random view enters his head at any given moment. He's like the Jeremy Clarkson of the forum, if he shouts at it loud enough it will happen as he wants it.
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| Quote ="vastman"Bet you can't see any irony in what you have posted can you
Ted has nothing to do with what Glover and Elston are now doing. Though it was Ted who gave Elston the job he now has
Bet you forgot that he was a BIG part of the old regime, you clot.
Open your eyes man - I mean all the OTT banging of drum stuff you do is fine as far as it goes - as are you're relentless Ted jibes every time I post something you don't like- but occasionally you have to make touch with reality. Over the last 6 month, rightly or wrongly as I'm not judging on this occasion WTRLFC has been systematically downsized to be a Championship team. Revenue streams especially those that yield a steady source of income have been increased but all spending let alone increased spending on product has virtually ceased - what does that tell you - ZERO INVESTMENT. It's gone IMO way beyond holding back and waiting for the franchise result, we are shutting down as a SL club for the time being at least.
I think AG would choke on his rich tea if we actually got a franchise as we appear to have made absolutely no attempt to prepare for another SL season. Forget about the ground improvements on offer, SL IMO won't fall for that. We do have a very slim chance of a franchise but IMO it will be for reasons way beyond the clubs control.
I'm not saying what he is doing is wrong, it's not a criticism - it's a statement of the bl**ding obvious to anyone was the ability to read between the lines.
So drop the Ted crap and fight all your natural urges and discuss as an adult - where am I wrong?'"
Maybe, maybe not. However from a business point of view it may make sense to play the percentages in this manner and not waste a penny when the odds are seemingly so stacked against us, to preserve as much as possible for the eventuality of second tier rugby.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Maybe, maybe not. However from a business point of view it may make sense to play the percentages in this manner and not waste a penny when the odds are seemingly so stacked against us, to preserve as much as possible for the eventuality of second tier rugby.'"
Indeed, that's why I'm not judging. None on here despite what they may suggest have all the facts. At the end of the days it's Glovers money. However I can't see any other conclusion that can be drawn, it seems much deeper than playing it canny until we are sure we have the nod.
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| Come on - be positive, see the positives, we must be positive. I'd rather be positive and then disappointed, than disappointed all week and then disappointed next week. So be positive and don't feel disappointed this week when in fact it might end up being very positive next week. I bet that fella called newgroundbeforecas will like this - he's sometimes very positive but can be disappointed at times, but on this issue he still remains positive - just like me!
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| What a stupid thread; I've been critical of JE in the past when I thought it was justified, but to have a pop at him for making public statements in support of the governing body in the run up to decision time is just silly. If he'd have done the opposite, he'd be criticised for antagonising them and risking our licence.
We're all nervous and tense about the decision, but don't let it get silly; some people are coming across as bitter and vindictive in this thread and that's not especially edifying or productive.
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| Quote ="bren2k"What a stupid thread; I've been critical of JE in the past when I thought it was justified, but to have a pop at him for making public statements in support of the governing body in the run up to decision time is just silly. If he'd have done the opposite, he'd be criticised for antagonising them and risking our licence.
We're all nervous and tense about the decision, but don't let it get silly; some people are coming across as bitter and vindictive in this thread and that's not especially edifying or productive.'"
Took the words right out of my mouth mate.
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| Worked with JE on a few things when the company I work for had a sponsorship deal with the club. Without a doubt he was the only one in the pre AG era that had a clue about things. I mean he shared a role with Ed Curran who was in way way beyond his deoth and didn't have a clue how to deal with large organisations or corporate deals although he was a nice chap - he did not portray any confidence what so ever. We got a free year and even had to insist that they take the signs down after WTW didn't fit in with our company's national marketing strategy. JE fits very well with the "Local club" that does stuff locally very well - we are never going to be glamorous so the strategy fits well albeit in Championship one next year. The bloke does a decent job with limited resources and a history like ours due to ted etc. At times it must be like trying to convince someone to buy a second hand phone from Rupert Murdoch!!
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| As far as I can remember wasn't Elston responsible for Glover and Parkin being interested in the first place? Without that interest we would either still be in the hands of TR or bust.
I can't see as he can do anything than "officially" support the RFL line, what slim chance we have may well rest on it, anyone that says otherwise is clearly not understanding the situation.
I think we also need to get one thing absolutely clear, whatever the outcome of 26th July, of we are out it is not the fault of JE, the book lies clearly with TR for getting us into such a mess firstly and the RFL for having such a ridiculously corrupt situation in operation, we are clearly not the worst franchise in the process, though I think up until Glovers involvement we were a very bad one.
Whether or not glover is a saint or not, or wether we are being all taken along for a ride, I don't know, I'll be honest I have considered it myself over the last few weeks. What glover has the right to do is make as much money as he can, and make us as profitable as he see's fit and clearly JE will go along with that, as he did under TR, that doesn't make him or Glover bad people, it just means theyre running a business in the manner that they see fit.
For what my opinion is worth, we are in with slightly more of a shout on the 26th than we were, and people deserve some credit for that, as theyve tried to make the impossible possible.
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| Spot on - AG is a business man who is trying to get some profitability and repect in to a business which has been very badly run over a number of years. Shame that Ted didn't realise how bad a businessman he was years ago and offer the club up on the market without a ridiculous price tag attached to it. In the end he lined his own pockets and robbed a number of others along the way. He and his family got the club in to a huge hole and blamed the RFL, Sainsburys and everyone else for it. It goes back years and surrounding yourself with nodding dogs (ie his family) worked wonders - and made the family a decent living (ie the shopkeeper and Di - the mystery stadium role woman). I believe that AG, JE and Davide are making a good fist of it - just a bit late - rather like the ref make the penalty count even by giving 10 penaltys in the dying minutes to the losing team when the game has well gone.
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| Have people forgot where we were at the start of the Season, almost out of existence.
If we do get the push next week I for one am in no doubt who got us in this situation, Ted Richardson and his bloody family!!!
If Ted and his gang are so confident it is not there fault why don't they show there face at the Crusadors game, I will even pay for Ted's ticket, it's only a tenner after all
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| Ill pay twenty for him to stop at home!!!
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| Quote ="merlin"Have people forgot where we were at the start of the Season, almost out of existence.
If we do get the push next week I for one am in no doubt who got us in this situation, Ted Richardson and his bloody family!!!
If Ted and his gang are so confident it is not there fault why don't they show there face at the Crusadors game, I will even pay for Ted's ticket, it's only a tenner after all'"
He's banned so unless he climbs over the wall, no chance.
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| Ask Francis Stephenson what he thinks about him as he pulls the knife out of his back.
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| Quote ="wild one"Ask Francis Stephenson what he thinks about him as he pulls the knife out of his back.'"
I thought Stephenson was offered a job with the new company but chose to walk?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I thought Stephenson was offered a job with the new company but chose to walk?'"
I thought the same.
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| As I heard it he was but at a reduced rate, now if he was indeed over compensated for what he did we will never know as he was big buddies with our former owner.
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| Mr Glover as come in and made tons of improvements around the place he as shown his innitiative. Belle Vue improvements and the structure of the club is better by a mile compared to the past regime I trust him a damm sight more than hans moleman our past chairman. Ted was letting this club rot.. Mr Glovers response when he took over at belle vue was the club is very dirty it needs a makeover this as been made. We all know we cant attract the players until we know our fate what do you want Mr Glover to do about this Vastman? He didnt have to take us over but he did lets back the bloke !You are unbelievable. The RFL need to look to the future and not the past the future is bright under AG I have not got my tinted glasses on I have been going to Belle Vue for the last 25 years and its got a new buzz around the place its died the last few weeks just because of the impending decision. You have got your Richardson blinkers on my friend !!!!
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| I can't really see what James Elston has done wrong here. He was never going to slate the RFL a week before the franchise decision, and even if the it doesn't go our way, I'm sure he will be too professional to launch an attack on them. After all, they will still control us whichever league we are in.
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