Nice - I'm guessing that the fact it was outside the ground might save Cas from one of their suspended fines coming back to bite them. Having said that, if it's investigated properly, it would be fairly easy to find out either way if this numpty was at the match or not. If he was, they could be in the doo-doo again.

Depends where the incident took place. If it was on Castleford Tigers RLFC land then surely they have a duty to protect security and protection to all players, coaches and staff from opposing teams

Attendance beat ours. It was on a bank holiday, which will have helped, although still a good crowd.

The point is I don't want Cas out of Super League. I just don't want them in at our expense, but of course it shouldn't be like that. I haven't worked out the averages, but I bet both us and Cas have double the average attendance than two other super league clubs, and possibly three times at least one.

And before anyone south of Watford states that it isn't just about crowds, it should matter more than location, if you are going to have relegation judged by things other than rugby. If the fans matter, it should be about the match-day experience.

Wrong on both counts clearly states in the rule book the momentum rule stats that if the passer of the ball is in front of the receiver before the receiver catches the ball it is deemed as a legal pass. This was the case on both occasions and according to the rule book should have counted. If you ask me they should do away with this rule but within the rules booth should have been given.

There is no such thing as the Momentum Rule, this is just something created by Stevo. There is a Forward Pass rule.

FFS, no it doesn't!

I have just spent the last hour trying to educate them on the Cas board, and I'm not gonna go over it again!

The subject of my lecture next week was supposed to be on "The Summation of Forces", but it looks like it will have to be a refresher of Newton's First Law.

Do not be late!

No, not really.

There is no momentum rule in the laws of the game. Your undoubted knowledge of Newton's laws are not necessary if you read the rule.

International laws of the game
Section 10
[iThe direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and
not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running
towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards
a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s
own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the
ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not
passed the ball forward in relation to himself
[/i

You can't be a referee, they would surely know that.

What if it goes 5 or 6 yards forward a la Leeds?

Doesn't matter how far forward, as long as the passer remains in front of the ball.

9860 at the jungle, so our 9020 looks pretty decent.

These were good odds too.

When Leeds were 4-0 up I Put £50 on for Leeds to win by +10 at just shy of 2 to 1

Sweet in more ways than one

Thanks for that description, both were forward passes and Silverwood got it right. I don't see Owen's name down on the scoresheet this morning, what does the rule book say about that?

Poor Cas' wont be long before we swap places.

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You state there is no "momentum rule", then quote the very rule

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The bit you highlighted is exactly what I described...and is also why it has nothing to do with where the passer is when the ball is caught, only the momentum he has when actually passing.

You can't impart an impulse on an object e.g. the ball, AFTER it has left your hands.

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Im not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse but i will give you benefit of the doubt.
There is no momentum rule.
There is one rule about passing which happens to mention the word momentum.
It doesn't mention Newton, impulse or directional velocity. It is plain to see and applies to a standing passer or one moving at pace...

What do you mean by "there is no momentum rule"? That momentum is not mentioned in the rule or that the rule is not titled "The Momentum Rule"? That's all irrelevant.

And how am I being obtuse?

The rule doesn't mention Newton, why would it? Everything in the universe is subject to the Laws of Physics, we don't have to refernce them at every turn.

A standing passer has no momentum, so if the ball travels forward, it must be through the application of a different force. Why is that so hard to understand?

You can do this type of thing for hours, can't you??



Well, in the words of the eminent TV character and Science Officer
" LIVE LONG and PROSPER "

No, even I need sleep!.

I think the Chief Engineer's saying is much more apt here..."Ya, cannae change the Laws of Physics".

Geek fight!

Touch judges aren't prepared to call forward passes & the normal position for the referee is nowhere near close enough to be able to call them with any real certainty. Perhaps theres an argument for the ref to stay level with play & for the touch judges to manage the defensive line being 10m back.

There is no such thing as the Momentum Rule. There is a rule about what constitutes a forward passs and what doesn't.