Correct, just need to keep an eye on the new lot whoever they may be.

The usual level of bluff and bluster from the self appointed self righteous vastman. A comprehensive assessment of nothing.
I was trying to help you out, but, you keep posting the negatives and you show yourself as the twisted fool you are.
Try and come to some sense, see that things have improved and show some level of support for someone who is trying to make a decent show out of "our" club.
In case you haven't noticed the band waggon you jumped on has gone and left you looking foolish.
AG is at this time the future of our club, lets back him 100% show him what this club is about, you dont have to over excite yourself too much, but at least back him when he's/they are working hard to clean up the mess and put us on a even footing.

Its a shame you weren't keeping an eye on the old lot, oh hang on you were!

Can you feel the love??

Can't believe you two didn't get together to create this one-two. Better than Morcambe and Wise!

Is refusing to be towed by cows an even more emphatic refusal than suggesting that wild horses couldn't drag you?

both are serious breaches in human rights!!!

and possibly animal welfare issues!!!

I back Mr Glover 100% and our crowds this year it looks like others are too.

Was I - that's another one to add to my list of war crimes against kinleycat.

Ha, just noticed the three stooges posted in a row, dumb and dumber and well who the hell knows

From the man who felt he knew me well enough to presume I had Ted Richardson's interests above the clubs - that's a bit rich. Your arrogance and conceit clearly knows no bounds.

This inability to differentiate between a genuine and fair minded cautious approach to the new regime and disloyalty and criticism is becoming tiresome - is your mind not functioning properly? If so I'll leave you alone - I don't want to appear to be picking on you, otherwise I suggest we all move on.



I won't reply to you again on this one, I'll let you have the last word - I suspect you're used to that.

You need to start reading your own posts.

Leave me out of it smiler - we might disagree on most things, but you can't lump me in with NGB4C; that's a low blow!

You need to take care, at the altitude you are perched, looking down on us pitiful nobody's, there's a real danger you may have a cerebral adema, you are rambling and losing your grip on reality.
Come down to a safer altitude, please, I'm begging you!!!

Sorry mate, you've dared to criticise the super being, your card is marked now.
There's a Bren shaped doll now in vastmans lair, along with his blow up ones, hope he doesn't get em mixed up!!

Come on vastman, they've put an advert on the telly and sell beer cheap, that's all that matters!

You leave me out of it aswell - I'm not interested in being the meat in a vastman/kinleycat sandwich.

I only do issues-based arguments, not personal vendettas; as Edwin Starr once said - "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothin." Feel free to say it again y'all. Huh.

Anyway, back on topic. In my opinion Peter Roe was dealt a crap hand by the club, he was left scratching around for players for some games, having to play youngsters who were far from ready, yet the minute he was gone and Shane McNally was in charge we appeared to bring players in, something denied to Peter.

In an interview (Radio Leeds, I think) after he left , in answer to a question about how things were at the club his comment was 'You can't sack the unsackable', I think we all know who he was talking about and let's face it at that time he was right.

I don't know Peter Roe and don't agree with some of his opinions on the game but I believe he is a decent bloke who loves the game of Rugby League who served his apprenticeship in the NFP/Championship and got his big chance to coach in Super League at Wakefield, only to discover that he'd been dealt a bum hand.

Just my opinion.

Nah, Peter Roe was sacked because he wasn't good enough for SL - end of. McNally didn't get extra cash because he was McNally, he got it because we left the CVA in 2004 allowing us to re-finance the club. Whether he could have done better with the money is pure speculation, but I'll speculate he couldn't.

Peter Roe was typical of British Coaches of that ere, stuck in his ways. Great in a part time environment but bereft of the ideas and imagination required at the higher level.

I don't blame him for failing but it does annoy that he wasn't man enough to admit he was out of his depth.

Put it this way, has Roe achieved anything since - no because deep down he knows and so does everyone else.

If the club let any coaches down then it wasn't Roe, Harbin and McNally have a small claim but Andy Kelly is the real victim. I'm not just saying this for Clans benefit, it's because I believe it. I'm not convinced AK was ever going to take us all the way but he deserved far more time than he got.

Just my opinion also.

I totally agree with all the above.

I once worled with a former Leeds Rhinos player and he said he could never work under Roe because of his voice.

Agree with you 100% Lindsay. Peter Roe is a man of integrity which is maybe why he didn't fit the bill at Trinity back then. He's also a very knowledgeable RL coach who, in my opinion, would have succeeded at Belle Vue given the same resources as McNally.

The question then is, before or after his time at Belle Vue, why has no other Super League club employed him? McNally scrabbled around and ended up with Phil Hassan and nearly the South African bloke who was playing union no-one had heard of.

Maybe because the popular perception is that nothing's any good unless it's SL. Although, credit to John Kear for recognising quality and potential when he sees it.