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| You won't dislodge Box from his safe seat. The only way to get him out is to get opposition councillors elected in the other, more marginal, seats. Labour loses it's majority and control of the Council and therefore the right to nominate the Council Leader.
Nothing I can do as Labour is probably the only Political Party I have never voted for in any election.
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| Quote ="allmatt"Give it a rest!
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Why don't you give us a rest and go play somewhere else?
The M1 is nice this time of year I believe
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"You won't dislodge Box from his safe seat. The only way to get him out is to get opposition councillors elected in the other, more marginal, seats. Labour loses it's majority and control of the Council and therefore the right to nominate the Council Leader.
Nothing I can do as Labour is probably the only Political Party I have never voted for in any election.'"
Box's seat is Altofts and it isn't as safe as you would think. Earlier this year Darren Travis was elected in the Altofts ward with a majority of around 300 and the turnout was high for a council election because of the general election which was on the same day. The next set of council elections are not at the same time as a general election which means that the turnout will be a lot smaller. This low turnout effects the incumbent and the favoured party more because more people turn out to vote for change rather than to preserve the status quo. So to cut a long story short there is a real chance that Box could loose his seat on the council at the next set of elections.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"As i have said time and time again. The problem we have is the main player on the council is a cas and a former cas season ticket holder its a joke. You reckon if Box was a Wakey fan this would have taken so long? The answer is no as he has no passion in the club to drive this along .Its a joke and he is very biased . Its very simple if his heart and soul was in wakey the bricks would be down by now . Why are cas even getting a look in? They are a small town in Wakefield! I tell you why they are getting a look in and don't look no further than the 3 letters and its made from cardboard !
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A stupid post.
The WMDC has helped your club out plenty of times in the past (if they hadn't you wouldn't have a team to support),and will do so again on the 22nd Oct.
Good luck Trin fans by the way
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| Quote ="duke street 10"A stupid post.
The WMDC has helped your club out plenty of times in the past (if they hadn't you wouldn't have a team to support),and will do so again on the 22nd Oct.
Good luck Trin fans by the way
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That is very true but they have also done stuff in the past that have not been what you would term helpful.
Don't get drawn into NGB4C's posts most of them are laughable at best.
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| It does seem odd, nothing against Wakey but your signings appear to be building towards a top Championship club.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It does seem odd, nothing against Wakey but your signings appear to be building towards a top Championship club.'" so these signings have given all hope of playing in the Super League not very ambitious then
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It does seem odd, nothing against Wakey but your signings appear to be building towards a top Championship club.'"
Come back when you earn (and maintain) the right to be in the elite division.
Fax have a far better chance if promotion, and rightly so in my eyes.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Box is up for re-election in May so we have the chance to get him off the council then. Also Wakefield council is run by Labour on a majority of 1 i think so come the next election we may have a change of local government which surely can only be bennificial to us if we can get rid of Box.'"
I very much doubt Labour will lose it majority in Wakefield in May and in fact my guess it is very likely to increase reasonably significantly. The, who ever is in Whitehall is not in the Town Hall, theory is going apply I suspect given the areas political history.
Also, I have not checked, but I thought the Labour majority of 1 increased to 3 or 4 in May, which means that after 13 years of Labour in Whitehall with record lows in the polls, they never lost control of Wakefield. I am not aware of Cllr Box last election majority so he may well be under threat but with the cuts I would still think Labour is likely to increase it's overall majority in May.
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Quote ="TRB"Serious question here. How does a one piece of land (albeit a sligtly larger one) cover 60% of the build cost? I am sure that there are other factors in the make up of the Cas budget, but I just can't see how that bit works - the price of land is very low at the moment, there is the CSR coming and house prices have just gone down again, markedly. There is also the factor that the Hicksons site will have residential land for sale - although not for a while - and there is a chunk of land at Fryston for housing as well.
I can't even tell you the exact percentages of the NM build - partly because it is fluctuating all the time, so I'm just trying to understand the raionale behind the 60% figure?
What you say about the Wildcats is absolutely spot on!
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The land for the new stadium has been given to Cas (20 acres) by the owners and future builders of the stadium, Waystone - www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942
So without having to pay for land the money from the sale of the Jungle and surrounding area goes directly to the construction costs.
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Quote ="TRB"Serious question here. How does a one piece of land (albeit a sligtly larger one) cover 60% of the build cost? I am sure that there are other factors in the make up of the Cas budget, but I just can't see how that bit works - the price of land is very low at the moment, there is the CSR coming and house prices have just gone down again, markedly. There is also the factor that the Hicksons site will have residential land for sale - although not for a while - and there is a chunk of land at Fryston for housing as well.
I can't even tell you the exact percentages of the NM build - partly because it is fluctuating all the time, so I'm just trying to understand the raionale behind the 60% figure?
What you say about the Wildcats is absolutely spot on!
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The land for the new stadium has been given to Cas (20 acres) by the owners and future builders of the stadium, Waystone - www.castigers.com/article.php?id=942
So without having to pay for land the money from the sale of the Jungle and surrounding area goes directly to the construction costs.
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| From what I can gather that's spot on.
Problem being the option for the purchase of WR ends in Oct 2011.
Meaning unless you can get Ben Bailey to stump up the cash before you move out or persuade your builders to work on credit/partial payment you could be in a mess in terms of unlocking the funding within the time-scale required.
If that should happen I've heard Keepmoat touted around, which I find unbelievable should (should being the operative word) NM be complete.
If the 22nd goes our way I think NM will move with great speed.
After all our developers will know this time next week if the application has been given a recommendation to approve & with which recommended conditions- which I'm sure they will be working at speed to rectify in light of the future full application; which will rapidly be submitted from what has been said by SWAG and YK.
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Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"From what I can gather that's spot on.
Problem being the option for the purchase of WR ends in Oct 2011.
Meaning unless you can get Ben Bailey to stump up the cash before you move out or persuade your builders to work on credit/partial payment you could be in a mess in terms of unlocking the funding within the time-scale required.
If that should happen I've heard Keepmoat touted around, which I find unbelievable should (should being the operative word) NM be complete.
If the 22nd goes our way I think NM will move with great speed.
After all our developers will know this time next week if the application has been given a recommendation to approve & with which recommended conditions- which I'm sure they will be working at speed to rectify in light of the future full application; which will rapidly be submitted from what has been said by SWAG and YK.'"
The option has been exercised now and the ground has been sold - www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_1855933
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Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"From what I can gather that's spot on.
Problem being the option for the purchase of WR ends in Oct 2011.
Meaning unless you can get Ben Bailey to stump up the cash before you move out or persuade your builders to work on credit/partial payment you could be in a mess in terms of unlocking the funding within the time-scale required.
If that should happen I've heard Keepmoat touted around, which I find unbelievable should (should being the operative word) NM be complete.
If the 22nd goes our way I think NM will move with great speed.
After all our developers will know this time next week if the application has been given a recommendation to approve & with which recommended conditions- which I'm sure they will be working at speed to rectify in light of the future full application; which will rapidly be submitted from what has been said by SWAG and YK.'"
The option has been exercised now and the ground has been sold - www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_1855933
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It does seem odd, nothing against Wakey but your signings appear to be building towards a top Championship club.'"
Well I suppose it is better to be building towards a top Championship side than a mid-table Championship side like Widnes this season.
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In the "Hicksons" thread i alluded to the point that your 3rd biggest shareholder claims to have it from RW's mouth that the option has not been exercised.
If you are correct, and I'm not saying your not, you should be all systems go and fair play and good luck. But I urge you to remind yourself of the pace things have moved under RW. Keep up the pressure!!
Look how far YK have come in such a short space of time.
The article neither says how much the ground has been sold for or when the Tigers will get the funds, even more worryingly nobody from BB was able to comment.
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In the "Hicksons" thread i alluded to the point that your 3rd biggest shareholder claims to have it from RW's mouth that the option has not been exercised.
If you are correct, and I'm not saying your not, you should be all systems go and fair play and good luck. But I urge you to remind yourself of the pace things have moved under RW. Keep up the pressure!!
Look how far YK have come in such a short space of time.
The article neither says how much the ground has been sold for or when the Tigers will get the funds, even more worryingly nobody from BB was able to comment.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"In the "Hicksons" thread i alluded to the point that your 3rd biggest shareholder claims to have it from RW's mouth that the option has not been exercised.
If you are correct, and I'm not saying your not, you should be all systems go and fair play and good luck. But I urge you to remind yourself of the pace things have moved under RW. Keep up the pressure!!
Look how far YK have come in such a short space of time.
The article neither says how much the ground has been sold for or when the Tigers will get the funds, even more worryingly nobody from BB was able to comment.'"
I think 'clutching at straws' comes to mind to be honest. The licence was only removed last week so RW couldn't work any quicker really could he.
As regards the shareholders comments, I presume his information came out before the licence was removed. The article states that the ground now is sold, not is lined up to be sold, or is avaliable to be sold.
The club would not disclose the value of the sale to the shareholders at the AGM. As a shareholder and at attendance of the AGM, I would know. So if shareholders aren't privvy to that info why would the public.
And regards to the 'no comment' from BB, why would a comment be needed? They have bought the land, no need to make a statement about it. I don't see other builders making public statements when they buy land.
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| Ok then squire.
Time will tell.
Clutching at straws? No way old pal.
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| Quote ="Riggins"I think 'clutching at straws' comes to mind to be honest. The licence was only removed last week so RW couldn't work any quicker really could he.
As regards the shareholders comments, I presume his information came out before the licence was removed. The article states that the ground now is sold, not is lined up to be sold, or is avaliable to be sold.
The club would not disclose the value of the sale to the shareholders at the AGM. As a shareholder and at attendance of the AGM, I would know. So if shareholders aren't privvy to that info why would the public.
And regards to the 'no comment' from BB, why would a comment be needed? They have bought the land, no need to make a statement about it. I don't see other builders making public statements when they buy land.'"
This is the interesting bit for me
Mr Wright added: “Subject to detailed planning submission approval which we anticipate to be a formality, we can now move the project forward with increased confidence.
That to me does not indicate all systems are go. I am pretty sure if all the funding was now in place he would be busting a gut to get the project started, the report does not indicate this. Theres lots of smoke and mirrors at both Wakey and Cas at the moment I am sure that the next couple of months will decide the future lets see.
There have been so many false dawns I have lost count I am not holding my breath for either project at the moment.
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| I guess it depends on what team you support into hw you read Wright's comments. Increased confidence to me reads that he is confident already but this will increase his confidence. Other comments in same article;
"It was the one single factor that could derail our plans for the new stadium."
"This announcement is highly significant being undoubtedly the biggest hurdle to overcome in the entire project as it unlocks our key source of funding. "
- talking about the removal of the licence.
Planning permission is expected by Xmas with building commence in the new year. Guess we'll have to wait and see. However, until the kick off of the first game in the stadium, people will always knock our chances.
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| Quote ="Jose Mourinho"About what is going on at the club...
Over the last few week we have
* Signed second rate, not offered deal players such as Lee, Penny, Smith, Parker, Rinalde, ... Apparently this is our new policy of signing young british players and those with something to proove - more like planning for the national league...
* The ground keeps getting put back and back and back and .......... BACK !!!! Why doesnt someone from the club come out and say this in NOT happening - we will be in national league 2012...
FACTS
Castleford offered us a branch - we decided not to take it and pursue our own ground - they now have the finances in place... A missed opportunity...
All we here now is ''your club needs you'' campaign... Buy this, buy that - they now expect us to buy the xxxxxxl shirts and merchandise they choose to buy but cant sell in the shops and buy memberships that dont even get you in the ground... And for what ?? Do we trust the current ppl in charge of the club ?? I doubt it and where did the money go for Brough again last season !!??
The Board
Its has been run on a shoe string for years and has caught up with us... The stubborness of the board of not stepping down has cost us potential sponsors... The tax man is now after us and there is no investment...
Conclusion
I will be watching them in the National League come 2012 with around 1500 ppl... However, at least we will start again, get new ppl on board and at some point the ground will come and in a few years when the lessons are learnt we may make super league again ...'"
The truth is your comments are Ball cocks
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| Quote ="Riggins"I guess it depends on what team you support into hw you read Wright's comments. Increased confidence to me reads that he is confident already but this will increase his confidence. Other comments in same article;
"It was the one single factor that could derail our plans for the new stadium."
"This announcement is highly significant being undoubtedly the biggest hurdle to overcome in the entire project as it unlocks our key source of funding. "
- talking about the removal of the licence.
Planning permission is expected by Xmas with building commence in the new year. Guess we'll have to wait and see. However, until the kick off of the first game in the stadium, people will always knock our chances.'"
Next week I am going to start wearing a cap with Ferrari on and in two months time I will own one, Works for Wright
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| Quote ="northernersgame"The truth is your comments are Ball cocks'"
Hope your right , doubt im wrong !! ps, ive heard our next signing is coming from Ossett Trinity !!!
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