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| I'm sure if John Kear was give the full salary cap to spend we would look a lot better than we do now, of course it is easier to play good rugby if you have good players!!!
This is such a nonsense, if you want a fair comparison on Kear then maybe you should look at teams like Quins and Salford as they have similar resource levels.....comparing us & Kear to Wire is like comparing the coach of Birmingham with Alex ferguson.
Re attractive rugby it is easy to play it when behind Morley, carvell, Solomona, harrison & westwood so again a nonsense.
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| Quote ="Big Cat"I'm sure if John Kear was give the full salary cap to spend we would look a lot better than we do now, of course it is easier to play good rugby if you have good players!!!
This is such a nonsense, if you want a fair comparison on Kear then maybe you should look at teams like Quins and Salford as they have similar resource levels.....comparing us & Kear to Wire is like comparing the coach of Birmingham with Alex ferguson.
Re attractive rugby it is easy to play it when behind Morley, carvell, Solomona, harrison & westwood so again a nonsense.'"
One of the posts of the season.
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| Quote ="Big Cat"I'm sure if John Kear was give the full salary cap to spend we would look a lot better than we do now, of course it is easier to play good rugby if you have good players!!!
This is such a nonsense, if you want a fair comparison on Kear then maybe you should look at teams like Quins and Salford as they have similar resource levels.....comparing us & Kear to Wire is like comparing the coach of Birmingham with Alex ferguson.
Re attractive rugby it is easy to play it when behind Morley, carvell, Solomona, harrison & westwood so again a nonsense.'"
You dont need a full salary cap to make your players go out on the field and look like they wanna play rugby though...or just to look interested and want to be out there would be nice...
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Kear is the summeriser at the Warrington v Catalans semi today.
I would like him to take note that both of these teams play expansive rugby and it has brought them success (Catalans would be much futher up the league had there best players not been out injured for most of the season).
This means i would like him to get us to play more expansive rugby, it cant be any worse than what we have been playing and the results can't get any worse.'"
Don't all coaches in SL and the National Leagues get to see teams like Wire and Wigan live or on tv a number of times over the season? Thus all teams should be able to play the same way and to the same standard.
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| Quote ="J.T"Don't all coaches in SL and the National Leagues get to see teams like Wire and Wigan live or on tv a number of times over the season? Thus all teams should be able to play the same way and to the same standard.'"
I've seen loads of gigs and live footage of bands over the years. I still can't play guitar like Mark Knopfler or drums like Keith Moon.
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| Quote ="chapster"which was pre kear in all but 6 games, so your point is?'"
My point is that with better players, especially when they play expansive as their natural game such as Solomona, the team is more likely to be able to do it.
Without quick ball from PTB and first receiver, which is where we are struggling, we are never going to be able to play expansive rugby.
Just saying JK take note of other teams is a little lame at best. Does anyone really believe that he doesn't know...and that Altofts telling him will then make him realise the error of his ways?
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Surely that was not the same Ryan Atkins that used to play for us ?
The man is either an imposter or at Warrington they must have a coaching set up that is
able to work on players and greatly improve their game.'"
Oh come on let's not go down that road! How many people on here were slagging off Atkins before he left. He is a good line breaking runner. He hasn't changed. He is just getting more opportunity.
I liked him when he was at Wakefield. No different now.
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| I also liked atkins as well. a bit greedy with the ball at times but nowt much wrong with his attack or defence. Look where we would have been now with all the players weve let go over the past 6/7 years. probably top of the league with no aussies!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="teds wallet moth"I also liked atkins as well. a bit greedy with the ball at times but nowt much wrong with his attack or defence. Look [size=150where we would have been now[/size with all the players weve let go over the past 6/7 years. probably top of the league with no aussies!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
Succumbing to rather than just facing a winding up order??
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| The current coaching staff could not coach any team to play like hudds, wire, leeds, saints and wigan are playing at th moment. fact is they dont know how and that is based on fours years of evidence.
Quote ="Big Cat"I'm sure if John Kear was give the full salary cap to spend we would look a lot better than we do now, of course it is easier to play good rugby if you have good players!!!
This is such a nonsense, if you want a fair comparison on Kear then maybe you should look at teams like Quins and Salford as they have similar resource levels.....comparing us & Kear to Wire is like comparing the coach of Birmingham with Alex ferguson.
Re attractive rugby it is easy to play it when behind Morley, carvell, Solomona, harrison & westwood so again a nonsense.'"
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| Actually looking at Alex Ferguson and Alex McLeish both do an exceptional job with what theyve got.
Alex has players with class and skill and has millions at his disposal.
Alex mcLeish on the other hand has no stand out brilliant players and not a lot of cash to spend so has to do with loan players and waifs and strays but has done wonders at Birmingham.
Just wonder if kear had money to burn and to spend on class players would this make him a better coach. You can only work with what your given as in Alex McLeish`s case.
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| Quote ="teds wallet moth"Actually looking at Alex Ferguson and Alex McLeish both do an exceptional job with what theyve got.
Alex has players with class and skill and has millions at his disposal.
Alex mcLeish on the other hand has no stand out brilliant players and not a lot of cash to spend so has to do with loan players and waifs and strays but has done wonders at Birmingham.
Just wonder if kear had money to burn and to spend on class players would this make him a better coach. You can only work with what your given as in Alex McLeish`s case.'"
I'm showing my lack of football knowledge here! re Kear and lots of cash, unfortunatley i suspect we'll never know if he can spend it wisely so long as he remains wakey coach!
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| just a comparison saying that a "GOOD" coach can even fashion a half decent team with no money and second rate misfits and loan players.
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| As John kear did lat year, it's nearly impossible to do this year in year out in any sport.
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| Isnt a good coach one that does good with what he has ? , Anyone can coach a team with loads of money and buy players , saying we have no money isnt an excuse, John kear should get his act together, stop feeling sorry for himself , and get some self confidence into the team , he isnt a good motivator. Everyone can buy a good team , a good coach is one who can develop one , Good coachs are likes of Brian Noble who has put last years bottom of the table team , into the top eight. Crusaders havent got a pot of money ? We cant afford to compete with the likes of Leeds etc. for money, so we have to make do. We have enough talent in our team to make the top eight, they just arnt playing together, anyone can beat anyone on the day and john last season brought that out of the players , he hasnt done it this year, give him another year and see what he does is my view. Thats if he wants to stay at belle vue
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| crudarers dont have a pot of money but at the moment they have a rather large quota
when was the last time a big name coach came to a team like us with no money or a regular quota, id love a new coach such as Bennet, Brian Smith, Brian Noble, or even a punt on an assistant coach such as wigan did with Mcguire or even Anderson at the giants but they arent going to come to a club with no ambition or cash or even a future.Their CV wouldnt look too good with a club that cant or doesnt spend. i applaud John Kear for all hes done but think he deserves more than we have now, but he also needs to update a few of his ideas.
Im Trin through and through but i now feel like im through with the trin.
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| keep the faith trin fans,hopefully you will have your new stadium sorted out soon then you can attract a bigger fan base and build up your playing squad.
not long ago we were at wilderspool infront of 5 thousand and getting battered every week with a load of bufoons stealing a living every sunday afternoon,once you get passed the stadium hurdle i think thats the foundations for getting to the next level...keep the faith and good luck for next season and your stadium applications.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Yep sunday 3.30 at fortress BV.
Kear will have sussed them out today, walk in the park for us
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What worries me about Kear is every little basic play is sensational in his book, I suppose a few scoots from average wingers is pretty good by his standards.
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