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| If the rumours are right, then Fozzard and Wheeldon are a good addition. Our pack this season have been lethargic and too one dimensional.
You know what you're going to get from chain smoking Foz and didn't Wheeldon score a couple of tries against us recently.
For me Korky and particulary Moore have been well below par. Hope we keep King however.
We certainly need change in our pack for next season thats for sure.
Will admit to being impressed with young Watts at Hull KR too.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Not our worse player, but certainly not our best.
Can offload and has got good handling skills, with a bit more grunt he could become a good player.
Only reason hes gone down at HKR is that we signed Clinton, and that the youngster we took from Cas (Watts) has come on enormously and taken his place.'"
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"If the rumours are right, then Fozzard and Wheeldon are a good addition. Our pack this season have been lethargic and too one dimensional.
You know what you're going to get from chain smoking Foz and didn't Wheeldon score a couple of tries against us recently.
For me Korky and particulary Moore have been well below par. Hope we keep King however.
We certainly need change in our pack for next season thats for sure.
Will admit to being impressed with young Watts at Hull KR too.'"
agree about moore but not korki, i think he has had a decent season. imho !
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| Quote ="crowt123"agree about moore but not korki, i think he has had a decent season. imho !'"
It's all about opinions but I've never really rated Korky however I know he's a fans favourite.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"It's all about opinions but I've never really rated Korky however I know he's a fans favourite.'"
Agreed Mary, liability in defence when he ambles up from defensive line, and liability in attack, never gets a quick play of ball for us...
But..if he does another big run like he did about 5 years ago no doubt he'll get a new contract..
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Agreed Mary, liability in defence when he ambles up from defensive line, and liability in attack, never gets a quick play of ball for us...
But..if he does another big run like he did about 5 years ago no doubt he'll get a new contract..'"
Wasn't overly enamoured with his first spell with us but to be fair when he came back he was a steady performer and remained so up until 6/7 games ago. When the team is playing so poorly it's difficult for anyone to shine. When we first went into the slump our pack was still playing reasonably well it was the backs and halfs letting us down. Because results have been so poor the confidence has drained out of the entire team and is the result is the pack are now playing gash as well.
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Agreed Mary, liability in defence when he ambles up from defensive line, and liability in attack, never gets a quick play of ball for us...
But..if he does another big run like he did about 5 years ago no doubt he'll get a new contract..'"
Have to agree - he pulls all the right faces and runs like a train, but his technique is awful; leads with the ball-carrying arm so that it pops out in collision with alarming regularity. Is easily turtled on almost every tackle, resulting in a slooooow play the ball. Also has the capacity to be a penalty machine.
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| IMHO the likes of Bracek and Ostick in NL would be better in a Wakey shirt than Korki and Moore...If its true what i have heard on another thread that Moore is playing injured...well Kear needs to drop him as soon as poss...All good offering your hand up to play but if your not right you shouldnt be in the team for ne...
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Quote ="very red robin"Not our worse player, but certainly not our best.
Can offload and has got good handling skills, with a bit more grunt he could become a good player.
Only reason hes gone down at HKR is that we signed Clinton, and that our youngster Watts has come on enormously and taken his place.'"
I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Can offload and has got good handling skills, with a bit more grunt he could become a good player.
Only reason hes gone down at HKR is that we signed Clinton, and that our youngster Watts has come on enormously and taken his place.'"
I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Happy with this a grafter is def what we need...
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But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Happy with this a grafter is def what we need...
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| JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it'
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| Quote ="pyeman"Think you will find that he is a cas academy product mate.'" And I think you will also find is on our homegrown list.
So technically(sp) he was right
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| Quote ="PHe"JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it''"
might that be because of the the anti-tampering deadline farce that means you cannot technically sign another clubs player until september??? Don't know mind, did kear say he wasn't interested????
I'd agree with PhilB that he is an honest grafter of a prop, we would have liked to keep him but what with the salary cap we have priorites elsewhere in the squad, most people I reckon would think its a shame he is leaving but there is not the mass wringing of hands over here about it, if you do sign him that might give you a pointer on what type of player he is.
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| Quote ="PHe"JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it''"
Maybe we have and Kear doesn't know about it cos he isnt going to be coach next season (well we can but hope)
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| No better than what we have and he'll soon be turned on, nowt against the bloke, seems a decent player and a grafter, all the things we keep hearing are not good enough for us
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.
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But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.'"
I see what you mean, he managed 10 offloads in his 3 seasons and 56 appearances at Hull FC. Before Morgan managed to coach it out of his game
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I see what you mean, he managed 10 offloads in his 3 seasons and 56 appearances at Hull FC. Before Morgan managed to coach it out of his game
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Each to there own i suppose, i dont look at stats; i use what little knowledge i have and what ive seen and make my own judgement.
Suppose i should start
P.S. 40 games - 4 offloads. 56 games - 10 offloads. Look at percentage; its been coached out of him gradually....
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| Chev Walker anyone? Typical Trinity signing.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Chev Walker anyone? Typical Trinity signing.'"
Don't even joke about it - we have enough injury prone has beens
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Don't even joke about it - we have enough injury prone has beens'"
To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??
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| Quote ="nakb"To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??'"
Its clearly a serious injury and one I would imagine is likely to make him more prone to leg injuries in the future.
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| Quote ="nakb"To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??'"
No but prior to it he managed to play in only 31 Super League Matches out of 55 Suggests he is.
In fact in his 3 seasons at Hull KR he will of missed 53 out of a possible 84 games come the end of this season.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Its clearly a serious injury and one I would imagine is likely to make him more prone to leg injuries in the future.'"
That could be said of any injury, that a person is more prone to injuring that part of their body again. If that was the case then it is fair to say that many players would have had to retire well before their careers would naturally end. Just look at JD he suffered a neck injury came back just as strong and to my knowledge has had no further injuries like that and I think it is fair to say that a neck injury can lead to far more problems in life than a leg in jury. Nobody ever became paralysed from breaking a leg.
So why not take a punt on Walker, given the compound fracture he suffered, he would be less likely to command the same kind of money as before the incident.
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