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| Quote ="pyeman" i would have a hatred towards any merged club as it would be what killed off the club i love.'"
That's your perogotive, however IMHO it's the RFL's obsession with new stadia, the poor management of both clubs and parochial attitude of many fans which would have more to do with the demise off any club.
Sorry if this sounds elitest but it's SL or bust for me. I know it's not "keeping it real" but I just couldn't get myself up for Dewsbury vs Keighly (no disrespect to those teams). Just want to watch RL at it's highest standard (no wisecracks about why I watch WTW then please).
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| There will be no SL future for either Cas or Wakefield, not a chance.
The bull we have been fed is starting to give me serious reflux, and can only now be cured with some honest reflection of the situation, and a unblinkered look to the future.
I dont believe a thing RW tells us, and think SWAG just give us no information of any substance, and imho its all straw clutching, and under the current economical crisis, and its still getting worse remember there is not that amount of money around to fund, support two grounds.
I want to continue watching RL at the top level, and after 30 plus years of yearly upset, worry, dissapointment, and let down if a merged team is the answer than that gets my vote.
St George the single greatest club side in the World up there with Wigan merged, then good enough for them, then good enough for us !
The merged team would attract all the top quality players from the area as kids, would have a much bigger pull for sponsorship, and be much more attractive to a new owner.
Cas and Wakefield need a ground to continue, the RFL dont care about heritage, and have proved that of late with their attitude to NL sides running scholorship teams, we need a ground, and unless we are together we wont get one.
I WILL watch a merged team in either Cas or Wakefield, I WILL NOTwatch a Wakefield team in Cas.
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| Quote ="i8no-one"
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I do agree with that, so why have a heritage at huddersfield.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"I do agree with that, so why have a heritage Centre at huddersfield.'"
I dont know if I am correct, but is that not owned by Stevo ? I am sure it is.
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| I get that grounds need to be up to a certain standard for health and safety, but surely if the ground isn't safe enough for SL it's not safe enough for the other leagues? Are fans in the NL not as important so it doesn't matter if they aren't safe?
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I get that grounds need to be up to a certain standard for health and safety, but surely if the ground isn't safe enough for SL it's not safe enough for the other leagues? Are fans in the NL not as important so it doesn't matter if they aren't safe?'"
No I think that fans of none SL clubs are allowed an instant death due to stadium saftey, we on the other have to endure a slow painful death whilst we are in SL
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I get that grounds need to be up to a certain standard for health and safety, but surely if the ground isn't safe enough for SL it's not safe enough for the other leagues? Are fans in the NL not as important so it doesn't matter if they aren't safe?'"
No, I think it's more a case of that if you want to be in the elite, you have to have elite facilities. All those clubs in the lower leagues are going to have to find ways of investing money into their stadiums or finding new facilities if they want to have a shot at SL.
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| Quote ="Fully"No, I think it's more a case of that if you want to be in the elite, you have to have elite facilities. All those clubs in the lower leagues are going to have to find ways of investing money into their stadiums or finding new facilities if they want to have a shot at SL.'"
But where does the money come from if you never get chance to play the big clubs? It's hard enough when you do!
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"But where does the money come from if you never get chance to play the big clubs? It's hard enough when you do!'"
Precisely. But I think that's why the RFL will keep a policy of changing the elite around, so as to keep things fresh.
If Cas or Wakefield go down I'd expect the "lure" of playing a big team will be of massive financial benefit to the clubs.
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| Quote ="Fully"Precisely. But I think that's why the RFL will keep a policy of changing the elite around, so as to keep things fresh.
If Cas or Wakefield go down I'd expect the "lure" of playing a big team will be of massive financial benefit to the clubs.'"
Playing in to widnes's hands big style we both are, so cas and wakey bye bye widnes and toulouse up is my prediction
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I dont know if I am correct, but is that not owned by Stevo ? I am sure it is.'"
Yes it is Stevos Baby and he is very passionate about it.
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| Quote ="chapster"Playing in to widnes's hands big style we both are, so cas and wakey bye bye widnes and toulouse up is my prediction'"
promotion and relegation still exists in the twisted world of Superleague.
As it stands eithe 8th or 9th to be relegated and 6th in the championship to be promoted.
abasofeckinlutely lunacy
last one out please turn off the light
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| Steady, if its a merged team, then there is no future, the RFL will have ripped the heart out of Cas, even Thatcher couldnt do that.
Sorry mate but you should be ashamed just entertaining the vile idea
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| I love RL and Trinity, but if the club goes - it's Wakefield FC at College Grove for me, and the odd match at Fev or Dewsbury.
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| Quote ="chapster"Playing in to widnes's hands big style we both are, so cas and wakey bye bye widnes and toulouse up is my prediction'"
They cannot promote Toulouse unless they make the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="Fully"They cannot promote Toulouse unless they make the Grand Final.'"
....and up until that point you had posted several quite rational posts!
under the expansion clause they can do what the hell they like, celtic will tick hardly any boxes. london too, can you see them getting the boot?? Nope!
your assuming a level playing field here, it isnt.
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| Quote ="newwildcat"Think we are heading back to "my imaginary stadium is better than yours" debate. Addressing the OP's points - I believe this is the beginning of the end for one or perhaps both clubs. In the medium term I belive the only way we can guarantee a SL presence in the region is via merger. Ideally, I'd love to be watching WTW in a new shiny stadium in NM. However, I am a realist and I think the chances of that are slim to none. I know many of you traditionalists who have no doubt invested much more in WTW than I have will balk at the idea of supporting a merged team, but surely love of the game comes first. If it was a choice between merged team or no RL or worse watching the Rhinos I would watch the merged team without hesitation. I think many others would make the same choice and it may even bring new fans in to the game. As KK said the risk is that both sets of supporters would walk away, but with some financial incentive from the RL the storm could be weathered. I think supporters need to start seeing the bigger picture here and park up their egos and pride (hard as that is). In my view the best chance of preserving SL rugby in the Wakefield District is via merger and if it worked with the combined strength of the new club (both financially and in terms of the players which come up in the area) we could actually be competing with the big boys rather than limping along and continually being at the mercy of the RFL.
I know this goes against many fans principles but to me it's the only way. Having said that with the mindsets of both BoDs and the majority of fans, in practice I don't think it would ever get the stakeholder support it would need, so I fear the worst. We can't even agree to share a stadium FFS. Should have got our heads together years ago, but I'm going off at a tangent....'"
I don't believe that fans of both teams would walk away in sufficient numbers to destabilise the new entity; some would, but they'd be replaced.
Otherwise, spot on; I concur with everything you've said.
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| Any true fan will say no to a merger no plastic fans please !!! And I dont understand Wakefield don't deserve help from the council why not LEIGH, HULL, SHEFFIELD all councils have helped thats why they are head and shoulders above Wakefield sporting wise and to be frank its pathetic how he may drive everything good sporting wise away from the City of WAKEFIELD how Mr Box is still in the job is beyond me. As someone who works in the Health industry I find his work appauling when it comes to sport. Wakefield Wildcats keeps this city on the map and if he decides Glasshoughton then we should go mad. I will still support us because Im wakey through and through and its not our fault its the councils why we haven't got a new ground and the fact its taken 25+ years.
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| I couldn't bring myself to support "Wakefield Tigers" or whatever. It's Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. [uWAKEFIELD[/u. Not Glasshoughton I am fed up with years of lies and sh*t from that pathetic excuse for a council and I can't believe anything proposed for Wakefield/Newmarket now. It sounds selfish and not very good sportsmanship but I would have to give up on the sport, even after watching Trinity play for many years. The RFL don't give a damn about the game itself, they just want clones of Wigan and Wire, big money clubs with fancy stadia.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas" As someone who works in the Health industry .'"
From what I have seen of all your other posts that would be Mental Health - Right?
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| The problem with the thread is the same as the other one. Strong well balanced arguments, based on no facts.
It is just someone's thought on what might happen.
If you say - would you support a merged team or would you go to a stadium in another area to support your team - then it is just a survey of opinion.
BUT this post is implying that we are already there and its a do this or die decision.... just like NGB4C thread.
There is so much more to happen before we have to just give in and accept a team with no name. No one in any official capacity in RL or council has said we have to merge. A joint stadium frightens people but I really don't think there would be a problem.
If it came to it, I would fight a merger. I have seen no business case to say this would be better than two teams.
Joint stadium is fine, where ever it is. No need for anything else.
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| Share... no... better to stay independent in a lower league
Merge or Die... die (same thing anyway)
fwiw I was a big fan of Wests Magpies but I hate Wests Tigers... mergers do work... but not for me!
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| Quote ="bigalf"From what I have seen of all your other posts that would be Mental Health - Right?
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Is this acceptable, i havent seen you contribute . Ban.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"[size=200Any true fan will say no to a merger no plastic fans please [/size!!! And I dont understand Wakefield don't deserve help from the council why not LEIGH, HULL, SHEFFIELD all councils have helped thats why they are head and shoulders above Wakefield sporting wise and to be frank its pathetic how he may drive everything good sporting wise away from the City of WAKEFIELD how Mr Box is still in the job is beyond me. As someone who works in the Health industry I find his work appauling when it comes to sport. Wakefield Wildcats keeps this city on the map and if he decides Glasshoughton then we should go mad. I will still support us because Im wakey through and through and its not our fault its the councils why we haven't got a new ground and the fact its taken 25+ years.'"
i am no plastic fan but i do support progress
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