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| Stay for me,but one of the big things this season is the fitness of the team,a change in fitness coach is needed.The amount of games we should of won but lost in the last 5 -10 minutes due to not been fit enough, twice v Leeds,Catalans,Bradford,Hull and probably a few more I've forgotten,that's 10 points further up the table and puts a whole different slant on the season.
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| Won't come as a suprise that its a go for me. He was on his way to Catalans until the compo issue arose.
His committment was clearly not there and we shouldn't be left as second best.
He is the coach and signed the players and picks the team and is responsible for training and tactics. We are going backwards after much good progression under Kear in the past three seasons.
He should do the honourable thing and step down
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| definitely stay for me. i can honestly say that if i could choose from any coach in sl i would stick with jk as someone said earlier the poll speak for itself. nice to see people with their own opinions not just going along with those that shout loudest.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"If JK decided to go who could blame him Ted Richardson & CO must be a bloody nightmare to work under they are bloody useless just like Woodward was and all the bloody rest what we need at Wakefield is a competent board something we have lacked for 40 years.
But no I am sorry after all he has done for this club to sack him for a poor 12 match run would be so wrong
Is it his fault Newton was a complete k@ob was it his fault Tronc was a pussy was it his fault Brough wanted more money than he was worth or the club could afford is it this fault we spend nowhere near the salary cap or the general public in Wakefield could not give a toss about professional rugby league or Wakefield Trinity
I bet you the likes of Tony Smith or that idiot at Bradford could not get Wakefield anywhere near the play offs with the very limited resources Jk has to work with
I feel very strongly about this John Kears only error for me was the signing of Paul Cooke'"
Reference player recruitment, Kear can't have it both ways. You take a punt and sign lose cannons like Broughy and Newton then you run the risk of them doing something stupid, it has been apparent for years that neither of them where wired up right. Wasn't there even a rumor floating about a while back that Tronc had been homesick before?
If those 3 had have powered us into the top 4 then you would be (rightly so) heaping the praise on Kear in a similar way he takes the credit for the successes of signing the unwanted such as Blaymire, Moore & maybe even Paul King. You can't take the glory when it works but say "how was he supposed to know?" if it goes shaped with one of his recruits.
It works both ways in my opinion.
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| at this moment in time he is the best coach we can afford,
it would be utter madness to allow him to go as he has a higher profile in the tv light than others that could replace him,
I know you would like him to go mopsey but I think we would shoot our selves in the foot if we couldn't continue with the plan, and that's the next franchise and the new stadium
Kear has my backing all the way
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| As t duckfingers wrote , if you take a punt & sign loose canons like Brough , Newton & Tronc they are prone to backfire on you from time to time. But with the limited resources that seems to be available to JK he probably has no other choice than to try & unearth a gem in this way.
Unfortunately coaches feel that putting a young academy player straight in to first team games can be bad for their future with club, so try to bring them slowly in to the squad. But I believe that if they feel ready for first team rugby they should be allowed to have a go, because if not you will probably see a promising young player who as been nurtured through the Academy see a better offer with another club & be on his way before we have seen what he could like in a Wakefield shirt. I believe that this could be a better gamble than the big names of the chequered past.
Finally I think that there is no better coach who could do what JK is doing down at belle vue on the salary cap that he has to play with, however I do think that Paul Cooke is one gamble too many, maybe 2 seasons ago but not now.
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| dont think we need to say anymore
one man RL but the only thing that matters after 80 minutes is a win and 2 points
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| yep boredom in its finest
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"dont think we need to say anymore
one man RL but the only thing that matters after 80 minutes is a win and 2 points'"
We all know that Kear can get a team up for one performance, he has done it successfully throughout his career. We need consistency 2 or 3 wins strung together and then theres a platform to build from. Not sure Kear is capable of that anymore.
I can live with safety first for the odd game (when it results in a win), but it is not the sort of Rugby that is going to win games against the better teams, and it is not the sort of Rugby that people will want to watch week in week out.
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| Well i will stick to my guns.
Kear to go.
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| survives again. entertainment at its best, excellent value for money. i couldnt be more pleased for such a wonderful man. finger tapping at its best. i love you john your my hero. i want to kiss your feet god weve won a game have we.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"We all know that Kear can get a team up for one performance, he has done it successfully throughout his career. We need consistency 2 or 3 wins strung together and then theres a platform to build from. Not sure Kear is capable of that anymore.
I can live with safety first for the odd game (when it results in a win), but it is not the sort of Rugby that is going to win games against the better teams, and it is not the sort of Rugby that people will want to watch week in week out.'"
dont agree with that some have very short memories we won the last 5 league games last season then the first 3 this season I make that 8 on the spin
JK is the right man no doubt about it
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| Kear gets us up for Hull, Cas & Leeds, but a win next week may find the momentum type confidence Kear is struggling to build himself.
Kear out for me still as he performs better under pressure!!
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"dont think we need to say anymore
one man RL but the only thing that matters after 80 minutes is a win and 2 points'"
Yeah, your right. Lets conveniently forget the last 4 months or so..... I think our problems run deeper than those that can be fixed up with one (admitadly good) win against a toothless looking Hull side.
Needs more than a couple of wins now and again to change my mind at the moment I am afraid. If we can find some consistency between now and the end of the season and make the 8 then maybe, but the jurries still out for me.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Yeah, your right. Lets conveniently forget the last 4 months or so..... I think our problems run deeper than those that can be fixed up with one (admitadly good) win against a toothless looking Hull side.
[uNeeds more than a couple of wins now and again to change my mind at the moment I am afraid. [/uIf we can find some consistency between now and the end of the season and make the 8 then maybe, but the jurries still out for me.'"
I think that applies to a lot of fans, even some rose tinted fans, while i'm happy with last night its not enough to redeem this seasons efforts overall i'm afraid.
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| I get the feeling that a play off place is paramount as it's seen as essential to the credibility of our franchise application.
I don't think anyone at the club or on the terraces beleives we're off to the grand final but we must be seen to be contributing to the competition and not be slipping backward. If we have to achieve that place by playing out the season in a boring fashion then thats what we'll have to do. I think we can win against Cas, Bradford and Salford in this way and that will be enough to get us 8th spot, anything beyond that is a bonus.
We then have a chance to rebuild again for next season and put the Brough, Newton, Tronc and all the other disruption and distracton behind us.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I think that applies to a lot of fans, even some rose tinted fans, while i'm happy with last night its not enough to redeem this seasons efforts overall i'm afraid.'"
It's not just about John though, is it. We have had a turbulent season, but we can use that as an excuse until the cows come home, or we can just dust ourselves down and make a fist of what is left.
The players really stood up to be counted last night and, importantly, didn't panic at any stage - especially that period in the second half when they had a load of posession, but... we were never behind and we didn't have any dubious decisions go against us - those will be the real tests for the side, and we will have to wait for another day to see if we've learned from our experiences. We don't want the heads to drop and a possible 10 point margin run out to 30 points because we 'gave up'.
As for JK - anyone who saw his reaction to Millards try would know that he is still in this job 100%, and that stability is exactly what we need at the club right now.
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| that trb is a ludicrous statement 100 per cent my backside,he wanted to go, you know it i know it , everyone knows it. when it went pete tong he came back to good old trin. when he gets offered the cas job hel dump us youll see. god send is theyll be as crap as us . KEAR OUT. i stand by it.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"[size=200Yeah, your right. Lets conveniently forget the last 4 months [/sizeor so..... I think our problems run deeper than those that can be fixed up with one (admitadly good) win against a toothless looking Hull side.
Needs more than a couple of wins now and again to change my mind at the moment I am afraid. If we can find some consistency between now and the end of the season and make the 8 then maybe, but the jurries still out for me.'"
but you have conveniently forget the last 3 seasons and the progress we have made before that our only target was to finish 2nd bottom
under JK we have challenged for the play offs made the play offs made a CC semi and the kids won a GF
for me JK is doing a fine job as for other departments within the club some are good some are a bloody shambles
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"that trb is a ludicrous statement 100 per cent my backside,he wanted to go, you know it i know it , everyone knows it. when it went pete tong he came back to good old trin. when he gets offered the cas job hel dump us youll see. god send is theyll be as crap as us . =#BF0040KEAR OUT. i stand by it.'"
Good for you!
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| Yep, that'll do
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| Stay, unles he wants to go, which I think he does, he would have been munching on snails and frogs legs if he had is own way by now
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