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| It is hard to judge how good a player is when he plays in lower leagues.
They can only really be judged once you have taken the risk and thrown them into a Super League game.
Hendo is already there and more than holds his own in the area of the game he plays (i.e. he is not a blockbusting prop, he is a hard working second row)
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| Quote ="TRB"No - I'll take that as criticism of me!
We do need a mix of good and better quality players - especially with our salary cap. In this instance I believe we are looking to improve the quality - but in anycase I can't agree that these players are as good as Hendo.
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i was referring specifically to applegarth who when at trin whilst not ripping up trees did not stand out as being completely out of his depth. i must admit i was not bothered when he left but then i wouldn't be if hendo did. for christs sake henderson cant even pass the ball, the most basic of rugby league skills.
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"i was referring specifically to applegarth who when at trin whilst not ripping up trees did not stand out as being out of his depth. i must admit i was not bothered when he left but then i wouldn't be if hendo did. for christs sake henderson cant even pass the ball, the most basic of rugby league skills.'"
or run in a direction that is consistently forward.
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| Quote ="bloomers"or run in a direction that is consistently forward.'"
I can agree with the 'passing' thing - but running at the line is not a problem for Hendo - in fact I'd say that's what he excels at!
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_lol.gif Hendos, tougher, faster, stronger, fitter and IS playing at SL level, apart from that you may be right.'"
tougher - maybe
faster/stronger - really?
fitter - understandably and something that would be rectified if playing SL
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"tougher - maybe
faster/stronger - really?
fitter - understandably and something that would be rectified if playing SL'"
Well i guess we'll never know will we.
Just answer me this, why is one playing SL and the other not.
Marks a smashing lad but no way SL standard.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Well i guess we'll never know will we.
Just answer me this, why is one playing SL and the other not.
Marks a smashing lad but no way SL standard.'"
why weren't blanch wilkes and grix? as has been mentioned that fact in isolation is not conclusive
i'm not necessarily saying he is anyway, only that in the 3 years that have passed who knows? and that his performances in a wakey shirt were in no way disimilar to those of henderson, imo, and i have merely pointed out what i feel are a few contradictions .
as you say its unlikely we'll never know if he could step back up, i have my doubts but i dont think the poster who mentioned was way off the mark for throwing the suggestion about
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"why weren't blanch wilkes and grix? as has been mentioned that fact in isolation is not conclusive
i'm not necessarily saying he is anyway, only that in the 3 years that have passed who knows? and that his performances in a wakey shirt were in no way disimilar to those of henderson, imo, and i have merely pointed out what i feel are a few contradictions .
as you say its unlikely we'll never know if he could step back up, i have my doubts but i dont think the poster who mentioned was way off the mark for throwing the suggestion about'"
Fair enough, you can never say never.
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| Quote ="TRB"I can agree with the 'passing' thing - but running at the line is not a problem for Hendo - in fact I'd say that's what he excels at!
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agree to disagree. a couple of year's ago his running was likened to Deacon by a poster on here - and I don't mean Paul. Better now, but still lacking any real direction or coordination for me.
It comes back to the wider point that for some on here, any criticism on here about a current player is heresy. I was no massive fan of Applecart, but if I'm trying to be objective, which I really do struggle to believe some on even attempt to be, Applecart is younger, hard working and bigger. Without subjecting them to rigourous athletic testing, the rest is guesswork as to who'd do best. Hendo isn't a bad squad player, but his main strength over the last season is that he's a trier, and he's not always been that. For that reason I think it is a fair argument to say that you could put an NL player in his place and not lose anything overall.
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| You're forgetting that Henderson is a nice bloke!
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| i not doubting hendo is a nice bloke and does try really hard in a trin shirt, for me tho to give him a 2 year contract was alittle strange tho i trust mr kears judgement in the matter, for me tho i neva been a big fan of him and do think we could have plucked someone from lower league that could do his job just as good if not better, but hey i only a supporter, i will let king john make the judgments n see what happens next season
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| Quote ="griswold63"i not doubting hendo is a nice bloke and does try really hard in a trin shirt, for me tho to give him a 2 year contract was alittle strange tho i trust mr kears judgement in the matter, for me tho i neva been a big fan of him and do think we could have plucked someone from lower league that could do his job just as good if not better, but hey i only a supporter, i will let king john make the judgments n see what happens next season
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| Quote ="snowie"the days of his reckless offloads on our line hasn't happened the season with Kevin so that says volumes that he has listened and learned for the coaching staff, for every hero we have a unsung that just get on with the work, he has become a one of our best grafters in the club and I'm pleased he has stayed
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Agreed.
Some famous coach once said something along the lines of " you need to have people who can carry the piano as well as those that can play it".
Hendo does a good job carrying the piano - if you get my drift
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| Quote ="Don Brennans Leg"Agreed.
Some famous coach once said something along the lines of " you need to have people who can carry the piano as well as those that can play it".
Hendo does a good job carrying the piano - if you get my drift
'" that has to be the best quote I've heard in years, it wasn't Barry Mac was it because he comes out with some belters
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| Quote ="griswold63"i not doubting hendo is a nice bloke and does try really hard in a trin shirt, for me tho to give him a 2 year contract was alittle strange tho i trust mr kears judgement in the matter, for me tho i neva been a big fan of him and do think we could have plucked someone from lower league that could do his job just as good if not better, but hey i only a supporter, i will let king john make the judgments n see what happens next season
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He's being sarcastic me thinks
Just like the rest of us and its a good job, otherwise who knows what sort of a squad we would have
Kears call.
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| Quote ="snowie"that has to be the best quote I've heard in years, it wasn't Barry Mac was it because he comes out with some belters
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Not as good as "you're playing all the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order", but it's a good one!
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| Hendo carries the piano well. I'm happy with his signing.
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| Quote www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/wildcats/Wakefield-Wildcats-boss-closes-in.5696019.jp
Apparently the club are working on WP's for the new signing. Now I'm a bit perplexed as to which current import is going.'"
Is anybody else slightly confused by this, unless somebody like Latu is going....or maybe even Blanch as there has been no confirmation of him being a Wildcat next season, how can we fit more overseas signings into our team?!
Seems to be good news about Brough though
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/wildcats/Wakefield-Wildcats-boss-closes-in.5696019.jp
Apparently the club are working on WP's for the new signing. Now I'm a bit perplexed as to which current import is going.'"
May not be necessary to get rid of anyone!
Ted's big bag of tricks!
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| Quote ="TRB"May not be necessary to get rid of anyone!
Ted's big bag of tricks!
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I don’t know how comfortable I am with 11-12 imports playing for Trinity next season, I thought the club had left those days behind.
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| Quote ="snowie"that has to be the best quote I've heard in years, it wasn't Barry Mac was it because he comes out with some belters
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Think it was either Wayne Bennet or Jack Gibson
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| Quote ="TRB"May not be necessary to get rid of anyone!
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An overseas player with a European passport?
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| if we sign anybody else over 30 i wont be very happy, are we still signing Paul Johnson?
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