I think you're better off sticking your stake next to a tree in your garden!

No, not that one.....

Its like beating beating some think thats already dead can we move on and lock this topic...

In brief, the club made a PAYE payment for a given month for what they believed was the due amount. However, a few months later, HMRC returned asking for a different amount, and explaining that the club had not paid what was owed in that specific month. At this point the club were completely unaware of the error, immediately cleared the outstanding amount and the matter was closed. Unfortunately, HMRC said that because of the way these matters work, by default it would have to clear their lawyers in the form of a winding up petition, and when it did that would be the end of it. The club were also made aware that because this was very much a none event, it may well be the case that the details would not enter the public realm, hence the reason why they didn't put out a statement prior to its release. Because they were as surprised as anyone that it had been released.

In the time between the club paying the original amount and being told that they had underpaid, there had been regular monthly meetings with HMRC (which are in place as a result of our past) of which nothing was said regarding this issue. The club had no notification of this underpayment until HMRC appeared on the doorstep.

As a result of this, and to avoid it ever happening again, Elston added that whenever the club now make a payment to HMRC, they follow it up with an email the day after to ensure that the required amount has been paid. He also explained that the club have no outstanding debts.

Now, if James Elston had come out and said that last Saturday we would not now have a 25 page thread on this matter loaded with conspiracy theory and conjecture. The details were not particularly sensitive, it appears a very straight forward error, and one which seems to be the fault of HMRC. It is very much as Elston and Glover stated last Friday, paid and a none issue.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, it was like Christmas morning for some when the new 'broke'.

I'm not entirely sure what is so sensitive about any of that explanation.

At least we now know why the club didn't forewarn supporters of the issue.

Summed up nicely in the one paragraph. Doesn't make sense as to how this was too sensitive that they could tell the ST but no-one else early in the week, but then go on a radio station available worldwide on the internet to explain it.

Perhaps the sensitive bit has not been mentioned.

Can we now leave this and move on. We have a bright future, exciting things are happening on and off the field, lets look forward and put this to bed once and for all.

Why even bother with the word "perhaps"? Comments like this make you as big a culprit of anyone on this thread for muck stirring. Dropping hints like this in one breathe, then the next telling people to move on is hypocritical in the extreme.

I tend to agree if what was said last night had been said a week ago, would have potentially nipped this in the bud.

Not seen any further comment from AdeyBull or BigAlf so presume they don't have any plausible explanation as to why what JE has said is not correct, cos I'm sure we would have heard from them by now

Okay, I should not have said "perhaps". I'm certainly not muck stirring all I was trying to say, obviously unsucessfully that the Club did not say more because they could not say more.

I tried as soon as James Elston made me aware of the situation to difuse it and had hoped to allay peoples fears and end it. Clearly I didn't and in future I think it best if I keep my mouth shut.

Thank you Sandal for taking the time and effort on this thread to try your best to put our fans at ease with your knowledge of the incident, some people dont appreciate it and would rather try pick arguments at every little thing you say.

The sad thing is that with my dealings with the club all this didn't surprise me at all, you can only stumble through so long before you trip and fall. I would say a large part of the explaination has been removed, otherwise it just doesn't stack up. HMRC don't just issue winding up petitions on the first ask, no matter what 'special measures' a company is in. It has to have been going on longer than is being let on and is probably due to either a dispute over the amount (which is pointless as you never win, pay it and hope for a refund in the future) or good old incompetence in the admin office. Think its time we invested in staff who may cost a little more but know what they are doing rather than ones who are under-qualified and cheap but look nice. It's time to get professional off the field or give it up and become a semi-pro club because right now there are too many square pegs in round holes i'm afraid. The people there deserve credit in taking the club so far but they need more expertise. Now it needs to kick on in preparation for Newmarket and take the opportunity it has to get right to the top of the game by the end of the decade. The club can't afford to let this chance pass and hopefully this event will focus the mind.

I think that's totally unfair, he obviously had communications with the Club due to the ST but couldn't say fully what they had told him, probably because they wanted to do it themselves and was only trying to put a few minds at rest, can't see how you accuse him of muck stirring at all, strange comment.

I didn't for one second say that the initial effort of putting minds at rest was a attempt at muck stirring. I said that comment I made reference to could be construed in that way. And the response Sandal Cat has since given underlines that he didn't mean it in that manner, and I appreciate his response. Not for one second was I trying to provoke argument, but it's something as simple as the interpretation of words that now sees us having this debate on page 26.

Perhaps you should put your name forward as you seem to have all the answers

Fair enough, I just thought it was a bit strong, whether you are referring to his general wording or not.

Page 27...bored now. Can't we just lock this & move on?

One thing is clear, 27 pages in a week of differing views on a thread posted by a Cas supporter about an oversight over something and nothing must be some kind of record.
Clearly two camps on this one.
Certainly no need to lock it, it will drop down in its own time and of course bored individuals have the right to not read on.

The real damage isnt now it is when the new application for licences are due when winding up orders, and County court judments are taken into consideration. lets hope no futher bad news is to come am sure mr glover wont wish that to happen.

Well, if that was all true, and its not, we should be thankful that WTW have not had winding up orders or CCJs against them.

And still you read on.............

It is pointless

still got another couple of weeks to go before it settles down the list