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| Just to clarify a few things.
NM was actually a last ditch thing that Ted cobbled up, and to be fair he had very little option.
The original scheme was to have been Thornes Park. Forgetting the fact that it turned out that the Council didn’t own the land, i personally think that one would have been a total winner. In many ways Thornes is better placed than BV.
I was a fan of Thornes. I was not keen on NM. Ted was, but the SWAG group was split. Not bitterly, just in preference. I don’t know if NM would have worked, nobody does, but for me it was to far out. Had it been in Stanley proper then yeah it would have been ok. But it was effectively in the middle of nowhere.
In the intervening 20 years Salfords experience has proved that to be a bad thing, but at the time it was nowhere near as obvious as it is today. That said, HKR ground was once considered a white elephant, but it’s doing ok now.
Truth is that on field success is a huge part of the success of any stadium.
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| some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd )... but this pic shows the extent of the current upgrade... I love watching this stuff!!
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| Quote ="Spookisback"some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd
)... but this pic shows the extent of the current upgrade... I love watching this stuff!!'"
There is a more up to date one than that kicking around. It shows a few more improvements, mostly cosmetic but interesting. I’ll find the link.
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Quote ="Spookisback"some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd
)... but this pic shows the extent of the current upgrade... I love watching this stuff!!'"
Link.
https://youtu.be/aU4knIvwfTs?si=WQC1E_aS3aGAOM1M
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Quote ="Spookisback"some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd
)... but this pic shows the extent of the current upgrade... I love watching this stuff!!'"
Link.
https://youtu.be/aU4knIvwfTs?si=WQC1E_aS3aGAOM1M
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| Quote ="vastman"There is a more up to date one than that kicking around. It shows a few more improvements, mostly cosmetic but interesting. I’ll find the link.'"
I think this is the most up to date having watched it
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thanks techno nerd
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thanks techno nerd
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| That latest drone footage doesn't give a close shot of the north west corner which looks to be included in this latest groundwork project.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I think this is the most up to date having watched it'"
Could be, there are a few of them.
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| pitch looks fairly well after being re-seeded
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"That latest drone footage doesn't give a close shot of the north west corner which looks to be included in this latest groundwork project.'"
Might be me but the drone footage doesn’t fully do the changes justice. It’s probably due to works still ongoing in places. I’m also sure once those boxes on west and a roof is put across 3/4 and cladding it will look much more impressive on drone footage.
Interestingly the new east corner has been dug up as far as the turnstiles ( I’m sure this will likely be still re-utilised as new terracing in the corner). I wonder if they will also be replacing the old turnstiles there.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse" I wonder if they will also be replacing the old turnstiles there.'"
I hope they keep them, even if they don't use them. They've been a landmark feature on that route into Wakey for decades (First time I saw them was in 1973 passing through Wakey on the Leeds Utd Supporters bus from Donny), and are representative of the stadiums heritage.
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| Quote ="AgbriggAmbler"I hope they keep them, even if they don't use them. They've been a landmark feature on that route into Wakey for decades (First time I saw them was in 1973 passing through Wakey on the Leeds Utd Supporters bus from Donny), and are representative of the stadiums heritage.'"
I'd probably been going to Belle Vue for about 5 years before I even saw that frontage. As a youngster, walking from town, we either climbed over the wall down the western perimeter or entered using the turnstiles down that side. We would then walk behind the South Stand and risk slicing our fingers off climbing over the corrugated metal walls of the gents toilets. We were poor back then.
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| The drone footage does show just how little a percentage of the N Stand Terracing was upgraded, looks to be around 30% of it.
I’ve said before that I’d love the whole terrace done with a matching roof to the E Stand.
I wonder if there’d be any mileage in removing the N Stand roof and repurposing it as a temporary fix along the West Stand
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The drone footage does show just how little a percentage of the N Stand Terracing was upgraded, looks to be around 30% of it.
I’ve said before that I’d love the whole terrace done with a matching roof to the E Stand.
I wonder if there’d be any mileage in removing the N Stand roof and repurposing it as a temporary fix along the West Stand'"
It’s kind of sad and dissapointing we ended up with that small section upgraded and so much wasted space. You could easily get at least another 1000-1500 up there.
If I recall correctly it got scaled back a few times. Was supposed to have cladding, platform and refreshments at the back too.
Had it covered more of the old terrace it could have been much better.
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| I was down at the north-western corner of the ground this afternoon and I can confirm that this area appears to be fully included in the re-terracing as per the front of the north stand. The corner also includes those plastic pipes whatever they are for.
the south terrace metal railings have been removed and excavations have started along that side to accommodate the LED advertising.
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| Great to see this being done in the south but I can't understand how they'll get the height without blocking the view from the first floor of the flats.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Great to see this being done in the south but I can't understand how they'll get the height without blocking the view from the first floor of the flats.'"
400mm depth of the terrace wont interfere with the viewing angles from the ground/first floor suite... some wont like the angle of the terrace but I quite like the intimacy that this gives with the playing area... (I already said that the west terrace was a preferred spot for me back in the day particularly watching reserve grade on wintery nights)
and I assume that this will be steel construction and therefore classed as a temporary structure.
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| The steps are 400mm in depth - that's front to back of each step.
The terrace will be just short of 3m front to back.
No details of the height of the terrace have been given.
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| Quote ="dboy"The steps are 400mm in depth - that's front to back of each step.
The terrace will be just short of 3m front to back.
No details of the height of the terrace have been given.'"
Allowing for 150mm risers, it's roughly 1.4m high.
On the other side, the LED screen supports are now in.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The drone footage does show just how little a percentage of the N Stand Terracing was upgraded, looks to be around 30% of it. '"
That video doesn't make it look great does it. I was in the North Stand for a game a while back and the back of it did look poor but that video makes it look worse.
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| Quote ="18th Man"That video doesn't make it look great does it. I was in the North Stand for a game a while back and the back of it did look poor but that video makes it look worse.'"
It was an awful compromise, even though the view from the back of the NS is great and so much better than before. If the roof gets lifted the remainder of the space can be utilised,which would really finish that end off.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"It was an awful compromise, even though the view from the back of the NS is great and so much better than before. If the roof gets lifted the remainder of the space can be utilised,which would really finish that end off.'"
Little other choice but yes it’s such a waste. Probably limits the club to extending what’s there now. When it was open it looked better than it does now.
I would have loved to have a detailed scan through all costings for the project as whole against the projected costings along with justification for the changes evidenced by invoicing and pricing index’s for the respective materials and industry. I find things like that quite interesting and exciting getting into the detail.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"
I would have loved to have a detailed scan through all costings for the project as whole against the projected costings along with justification for the changes evidenced by invoicing and pricing index’s for the respective materials and industry. I find things like that quite interesting and exciting getting into the detail.'"
Can't believe they didn't run it all past you.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Can't believe they didn't run it all past you.'"
Unbelievable isn’t it.
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