Thats the happy bus you can hear outside grab your coat!

Yes i agree they should take all Wakeys points of them and burn the clubhouse down and take all the grass off the pitch, its the only way.

Don't touch the Brocolli tree though thats going too far.

If you care to read back through the thread I think you will find different.

I have made a consistent arguement that Newton cheated by taking a performance enhancing substance to which he has now confessed. The report states this was self administered and IMO was designed to allow him to train and recover from injury.

This amounts to cheating and no team should be allowed to benefit from it.

This isnt an anti Wakefield view but a PRO RL one.

So I guess you dont want to discuss the point ???? but would rather sweep everything under the carpet.



Olympic athletes/teams arent allowed to benefit form cheating why should you. Medals are withdrawn and points deducted form the tables.

IN this case it warrants a 2 -4 points deduction for playing an illegible player IMHO.

Thats a spray can not a brush



Only if you take the same for not offering a playing surface thats suitable for modern day SL rugby.

I doubt you'll get much support for your opinion from the rest of SL fans TBH.

Happy to discuss any of your points!!
Would you like to discuss mine, rugby league is a game played on grass, yet you don't have any on your pitch/quagmire!! Therefore you should be immediately kicked out of the league for breaking the most fundamental rule of the game. I bet we'd get more support for our claim than you would for yours!! Now climb back into your tree!!!

If you care to look back at my opinion on this matter previously in this thread you will see I give a very reasoned case.

Punishing the club and his team mates is not the answer. The sole responsibility of taking a banned substance lies with the user, even if JK had told Kear to take it (which I'm certain he would never do) its up to the person in question to check with the relevant bodies whether it is within the laws of the game to do so. Newton cheated himself, the club, his team mates, his fans and the game, he is now being punished for his errors of judgement. Hell what if TN comes out and says he's been on HGH throughout the whole of his career, do you go back and punish Warrington(academy player there), Leeds, Wigan and Bradford???

get a life/ get a wife and relieve all that pent up tension, cas humiliated you and our scruffy neighbours beat you easily, this is the reason you raised the points deduction......................................... idiot

he acted without the clubs knowledge , what part of this are you baffled by?

Player Issue not a club one.

Just for the muppet Leeds fans (and there are many, many who aren't!), read the last paragraph on this story from 2005....

[urlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/hudson-in-drugs-inquiry-488128.html[/url

Hows that going to work then ?????? How far back do you want to go with previous cases. We could rewrite history.

The rules state the player, and player alone is responsible for whats in his body.

You have to take a stand at some point..this was a self administered performance enhancing stimulat

...not recreational or misprescribed or accidental as in other recent cases.

Clubs have to take some responsibility here for ensuring the game is clean and cheat free.

Sweeping it under the carpet or pretending its not happening is foolish. If points were at stake the clubs would make damn sure players were clean.

im all for this, so lets test every single squad member the day before the grand final and if either team has a player test positive then they forfit the game.

similarly the ccf!

thatll sort it



any takers????

you just broke one of the RFL unwritten 10 commandments ...Thou shall not blame Leeds

terry once played at leeds

as did john gallagher

nothing to do with drugs i just like to bring it up every now and again!

read your commandments

thou shalt not pay untried rugby union players enormous amounts of cash when as a full back behind the biggest NZ pack ever they have never had to tackle anything, or catch a ball???

i have it on a t shirt for laugh at loiner day!

I have to say that Sinfield spoke well (as ever) on the SL show regarding drugs testing - he wanted more to take place and spoke up regarding the 100% me initiative. I like Sinfield he is articulate and measured - reminds me of JK in this regard.

Oh, and none of this 'misprescribed' or 'accidental' rubbish. As Catwoman wrote earlier, it's the players responsibility! If they are stupid enough not to check, double check, and triple check what they put in their body, tough.

(And if they are doing cocaine or whatever 'recreational' drug, then again, they are idiots.)

maybe that's what he's doing during every game, just practising...........with the refs!!!!