This is the 2nd time I have asked you to show me when he said they hadn't been discussed. I have read that interview 5 times now, and nowhere does MC say that.

Your the one saying he could have changed his mind.

I missed your other post.
So clarify again your point that Carter is blocking the takeover because he's wanting £200k rent for the stadium?

Sorry boss. Will jump straight on that.

You've read this 5 times???

"while Carter and Minards’ directors loans are also part of the equation, though no firm talks have taken place on the latter yet."

Thats what the journalist typed, not a quote from MC. If a debt of £1.2m hasnt been discussed, then we are million miles away from this takeover, take away the council debt, this is our highest debt.

This is what he as in MC said, and not the journalist

“The loan to the Government for the Covid stuff, that’s been divulged and there’s no issue with that. Then there’s my directors loans. Other than that, the club has nothing in the balance sheet that warrants any sort of worry to a potential new owner. We absolutely want this to go ahead.”


So for the 3rd time, show me where MC said they hadn't been discussed?

And that's their starting point. They haven't gone through due diligence yet, so all this is still to be finalised.

And the bit you quote is an explanation of what's in the balance sheet. He says there's nothing gor a buyer to worry about. He doesn't say one way or the other whether he will waive it.
The article isn't just a transcript of an interview. The reporter writes what he discussed.

Why am I having to explain your own posts?

You are just completely blinded by your vendetta.

....and what about your accusation of rent holding up the deal? £200k? Did your source clear that up?

you may aswell have a conversation with a block of concrete, no one is allowed an opinion on mc jm or the club, no one knows anything and we're all liars but the messiahs word is gospel. Carter puppet by the looks of things and controlled by the club
We know the truth about the rent and the loans and all the other shenanigans.

So your guessing and filling in the blanks of what MC may or may not have said to the journalist. Point proved.

When did he say he changed his mind, or are you admitting that was you?

It wasnt my accusation, it was what I got told, it may turn out to be true. Why are you so hung up on this? If they havent even discussed the £1.2m loans as you keep harping on about , then the takeover is miles away - however I think we all know the loans have been discussed. As I put in one of my previous posts, its certainly a possibility that a Stadium Management company could own / run the stadium, and rents this to the club, the football club etc, its a real common set up in Stadia management / ownership.

So neither of you want to back your claims up about the rent then? Even though "You know"

And if your 'opinions' are defamatory towards someone, you are 1) going to be challenged to say why and 2) likely to be stopped from posting them on here

Why are you so hung up on this subject ? Why is to so important to you that you deviate away from the things you have made up to keep coming back to this point.

My opinions on here, how have they been defamatory? I have quoted directly what he said, not filled in any blanks, not assumed or made things up, unlike you - pot calling kettle black eh?

Also, whilst talking about defamatory, I have been called a 'physcopath', associated with and other posters called 'Normanton mafia bully boys', you didn't jump up and down crying saying any of that was defamatory did you? You yourself even made up, I had a go at Lewis Murphys girlfriend, when I said show me, yet again, you crawled back under your stone as you couldn't back it up, as it was another bare faced pop tart lie.

I said why can't he change his mind. I don't know the guy.

And you've changed from 'heard from a reliable source' to
"May be true" "its possible"

I'm calling you out as making things up just because you don't like Carter. You say yourself Minards hasn't said anything but seem to now lump them together.

Enough people are challenging you on Facebook now thank goodness.
You have shown absolutely no basis for any of your claims, except 'it was what I got told'. Unless you can quote someone who actually knows, it could have been a discussion between you and Mopsey for all we know.

And 'I am hung up on it' because you are saying things that are damaging to my club and the directors of the club and make things look worse than they are.
We should be celebrating the possibility of a takeover but we are all having to wade through all the misinformation which causes doubt when there isn't anything to discuss yet.

Actually, I sincerely apologise Mark Voakes. It wasn't you that comment on the Facebook thread about Murphy to his girlfriend. I just checked.
I was absolutely wrong saying that.

Apology accepted, On this occasion I wont pursue defamation of character on this matter.

I have nothing to sue for unfortunately.
I'll sell you my non voting shares in Trinity for a pound though.

I did hear from a reliable source, as I have heard plenty of things that happen to come true, the pitch inspections which I got slagged off over 'making up', bang turned out true, same with Max and Linos new deals.

As I have said, a Stadium Management company is very common, and it could have been suggested that one is formed and the asset remains with that company and lease this back to the club and football club. After all, MC said that thing will generate £500K, so he may want to retain such a valuable business asset. Nothing has come out in the press to say that this idea / suggestion of the stadium been rented to the club is either true or untrue YET. I

Whether you do or you dont, I really couldnt care less, I am a big boy and can deal with your lies. I wont be losing any sleep over what you, any other posters or anyone on FB says or thinks about me. I just had to prove a point, that you have been harping on about defamation, and you blatantly made something up about me, Pot calling kettle.

The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.

One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie

Ted is a regular at games these days, was also at one of the recent forums.

Thanks for that, my suspicions mind working overtime.

We have 4 shareholders, who will all have friends and family who they trust, they may also have employees who they trust. Ellis may also take the same number of advisor / fellow board members / even members of a potential consortium with him to any talks - they too all have friends family etc who they believe they can trust. All of a sudden 30 or so people know, or have been told elements of the talks. Its just a big game of chinese whispers then.

Non disclosure agreements could be in place, but then again MC has just done a interview about the potential takeover, so maybe they arent.

Ted attend games regularly, he may have done some wrong things when running the club, but he is actually a proper lifelong Wakefield Fan, and not a Hull FC follower.

If you look in the online concise oxford dictionary for the definition of "Irony" I believe it now makes direct reference to a certain posters comments on this thread

That was a mistaken identity but I haven't lied about anything. All I've asked is to only state facts as facts, not made up things like the rent or otherwise.

Ah the old mistaken identity card - not sure it stands up, to avoid anything like that, I made my username, my actual name on Facebook.

I havent made anything up, I have put my opinion, with direct quotes from MC - you have made things up, and put a quote from a journalist to try to back up that MC said something.........its really not that hard. Just practice what you preach thats all I ask.

I'm led to believe from a reliable source that the quality of the pitch has improved due to dinosaurs, unicorns and dodos grazing on it and 3 wishes being granted by a fairy godmother and a genie! I'm not sure if that's true or not but is it beyond the wildest possibilities that it is?

Except for the £200k rent. That wasn't an opinion.

What you have been told and believe is on you, it really has no affect on me darling

I never posted about that on here, that was on FB, reveal yourself and discuss it on there, rather than hiding on here, and then keep bringing it up on here.

You are indeed correct, it wasn't a opinion, it was a "fact" - I had heard it and I had heard it from a reliable source - its not really a complicated issue. Whether theres truth in it, only time will tell, but I stand by that it was factual, as I did get told that, and it was told to me by someone who is reliable.