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| Far more polite than Jeremy Paxman would have been
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I have spoken to his office and e.mailed him with a reply already.
antonycalvert@hotmail.com was the address they gave me.
Fire one in to him him
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that is the address i emailed to.
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| Cheers Guys. I did not use that one (it was a google mail one I used), so might explain why I don't have a read receipt.
Will send again now.
PS. Think you are correct about him leaving himself wide open and he also does not appear (but I might be wrong) to have also looked at the proposals in detail!!! Luckily, I don't think that it is as vital that they do, as the locals councillors and members of the planning committee do, and everything seems to point to the fact that they are fully aware of the proposals and how not really any of the objections being raised are standing up.
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| Loads of objections received yesterday and today, too many to keep up as the files take ages to load and are quite large. Many are just the same later photocopied with hand written address and signature added to individualise them. They are gravely concerned about the development yet they can’t be bothered to write in with their own words.
Anyhow, this is no different to the petition where people were asked to put their signatures and address to the proposals so it’s only fair that it’s taken into consideration when looking at the numbers for and against.
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| When are these latest objections dated? I thought that the 8th April was the cutt off point to submit comments?
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| There is one letter complaining about the proposed building work on Methley Lane and another who is 'appalled at the mere thought of new building work in Methley'. Are some of these people being told that the development is closer to them then what it is?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"When are these latest objections dated? I thought that the 8th April was the cutt off point to submit comments?'"
There are still supporting comments coming in on the 12th so I guess the 8th was used as a tool to get people writing in immediately rather then leaving it and the forgetting about it.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"There are still supporting comments coming in on the 12th so I guess the 8th was used as a tool to get people writing in immediately rather then leaving it and the forgetting about it.'"
Ok thanks mate
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| This will be called in at regional and perhaps National level. It is just too bigger project using too much greenbelt for it not to. You can argue all you want about it being a pit before, and how it might be reclassed in the future but the fact is it is protected greenbelt now!
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| Quote ="rugbyball"This will be called in at regional and perhaps National level. It is just too bigger project using too much greenbelt for it not to. You can argue all you want about it being a pit before, and how it might be reclassed in the future but the fact is it is protected greenbelt now!'"
It was always going to get called in by the regional office due to the greenbelt (not greenfield) factor. You're not telling us anything new.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"This will be called in at regional and perhaps National level. It is just too bigger project using too much greenbelt for it not to. You can argue all you want about it being a pit before, and how it might be reclassed in the future but the fact is it is protected greenbelt now!'"
Thank you for your insightful comment! No really, you clearly really have a full understanding of how the planning system works. I and others are happy to engage in constructive discussion on this issue, how about you start and give us your take on LDF's replacing UDP's?
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Here's my e-mail to Mr. Calvert:
As one of the voters in the new Morley & Outwood constituency, I am quite concerned by the article in the Yorkshire Evening Post on the 7th April - www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 6207914.jp - in which a major development, which will bring jobs to this area (and I speak as someone who is currently unemployed) and a stadium which will benefit not just the team I support, but also the local area as a whole in terms of the sporting events which can be brought here, is seemingly trying to be hijacked by colleagues of yours from outside the constituency boundary.
The irony of this row over 'greenbelt' land, is that up until the 1980s, this area was covered by Newmarket Colliery, which was hardly an outstanding feature of natural beauty and, on closure, lost jobs and destroyed the community in terms of local residents having to move further a field to gain employment.
Please could you advise me on your opinions on this project.
And his response:
Quote The article you refer to reported the concerns of locally elected people, both councillors and others, regarding the amount of distribution and industrial use of the land near the stadium.
My own position is that I am totally supportive of the stadium development plans for the colliery site. As you rightly say most of that area is green-belt in name only. The entrance to the site is especially filthy with the flytipping.
My concerns are not that their should be no new jobs on the site, I am by instinct pro-development, it is the nature of the development around the stadium (which I continue to support) and the lack of any consultation between Yorkcourt and local parliamentary candidates.'"
(I will update with responses from the other candidates when I get them...)
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Here's my e-mail to Mr. Calvert:
As one of the voters in the new Morley & Outwood constituency, I am quite concerned by the article in the Yorkshire Evening Post on the 7th April - www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 6207914.jp - in which a major development, which will bring jobs to this area (and I speak as someone who is currently unemployed) and a stadium which will benefit not just the team I support, but also the local area as a whole in terms of the sporting events which can be brought here, is seemingly trying to be hijacked by colleagues of yours from outside the constituency boundary.
The irony of this row over 'greenbelt' land, is that up until the 1980s, this area was covered by Newmarket Colliery, which was hardly an outstanding feature of natural beauty and, on closure, lost jobs and destroyed the community in terms of local residents having to move further a field to gain employment.
Please could you advise me on your opinions on this project.
And his response:
Quote The article you refer to reported the concerns of locally elected people, both councillors and others, regarding the amount of distribution and industrial use of the land near the stadium.
My own position is that I am totally supportive of the stadium development plans for the colliery site. As you rightly say most of that area is green-belt in name only. The entrance to the site is especially filthy with the flytipping.
My concerns are not that their should be no new jobs on the site, I am by instinct pro-development, it is the nature of the development around the stadium (which I continue to support) and the lack of any consultation between Yorkcourt and local parliamentary candidates.'"
(I will update with responses from the other candidates when I get them...)
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| Excellent work t-r-i-n-i-t-y.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"See above'"
Well that is much better and more positive than crowt123's reply from him, but still non-committal . I wonder if he has now taken a closer look at the application and done some more digging in respect of the source of the objections?
He is still sitting on the fence about the surrounding development but he has scaled that back to "concerns about the nature of the development around the stadium" and of course he is now talking about lack of consultation to local PCC's by York Court???
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"(I will update with responses from the other candidates when I get them...)'"
Two of the three PCC's for Elmet & Rothwell have read my e-mail to them last Thursday & Friday respectively, but no reply... bet I don't get one!
Did you find an e-mail for Lib Dem candidate for Morley & Outwood?
PS. Ed Balls knows about the issues (Labour were at the door on Sunday morning and one of his door-step gang took some notes down and promised to double check on mine and other e-mails). He confirmed that Ed tends to write back via letter and he suspected we would probably all get a similar letter back once he has had chance to review and reply.
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| Oh this guy is good, he is a king of deception and misdirection - he should stand to be an MP with such 'creative' skills, he would fit right in!
He uses a standard Ed Balls circular flyer, probably being sent to everyone they have named details for and says "Here’s a letter received today with no mention of any green issues or green belt." and therefore makes it sound like he has replied just to them and ignored the issue!
[urlhttp://www.wakefieldccg.co.uk./[/url
He also blanks out his name from the letter... well, I am so against this development and wish to stand up and be counted, air my views, exercise my democratic right to object... however, would like to keep my identity secret, is that ok?
Take a bow Mr Face the Future! What a weasel!
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and email reply from mr balls dept:-
Thank you for your email message
Ed is always keen to receive email messages from people locally and from across the country. He reads all these emails and replies to as many as he can.
However, Parliamentary protocol dictates that Members of Parliament can only take up specific individual cases on behalf of their own constituents.
If you want Ed to take up a particular case on your behalf, we need to confirm that you are a constituent. So please ensure that you have included your full name and full postal address. If this is not included with your email, please could you resend with a full postal address. Then we will be able to deal properly with your query.
If you are emailing with a personal case from Morley, Churwell, Drighlington, Gildersome, Tingley, East Ardsley, West Ardsley, Lofthouse, Thorpe or Robin Hood, where Ed is currently the Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the next election, then Ed will usually contact Colin Challen MP on your behalf.
If you have already sent your address, or emailed Ed before, then please accept our apologies for the inconvenience of this email.
Because of volume of emails, we cannot acknowledge emails directly - but if you are a current or prospective constituent and have included your name and address we will respond by post shortly.
If you are emailing Ed in his capacity as Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families, we will forward your email to his department - or you can email Ed directly at:
dcsf.ministers@dcsf.gsi.gov.uk
Kind regards
Carol Moran
Constituency Office Manager
don't know what good it is going to be speaking to colin challen when it is his mr balls's views i want, him being the prospective new mp !
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and email reply from mr balls dept:-
Thank you for your email message
Ed is always keen to receive email messages from people locally and from across the country. He reads all these emails and replies to as many as he can.
However, Parliamentary protocol dictates that Members of Parliament can only take up specific individual cases on behalf of their own constituents.
If you want Ed to take up a particular case on your behalf, we need to confirm that you are a constituent. So please ensure that you have included your full name and full postal address. If this is not included with your email, please could you resend with a full postal address. Then we will be able to deal properly with your query.
If you are emailing with a personal case from Morley, Churwell, Drighlington, Gildersome, Tingley, East Ardsley, West Ardsley, Lofthouse, Thorpe or Robin Hood, where Ed is currently the Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the next election, then Ed will usually contact Colin Challen MP on your behalf.
If you have already sent your address, or emailed Ed before, then please accept our apologies for the inconvenience of this email.
Because of volume of emails, we cannot acknowledge emails directly - but if you are a current or prospective constituent and have included your name and address we will respond by post shortly.
If you are emailing Ed in his capacity as Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families, we will forward your email to his department - or you can email Ed directly at:
dcsf.ministers@dcsf.gsi.gov.uk
Kind regards
Carol Moran
Constituency Office Manager
don't know what good it is going to be speaking to colin challen when it is his mr balls's views i want, him being the prospective new mp !
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Quote ="crowt123"and email reply from mr balls dept:-
Thank you for your email message
Ed is always keen to receive email messages from people locally and from across the country. He reads all these emails and replies to as many as he can.
However, Parliamentary protocol dictates that Members of Parliament can only take up specific individual cases on behalf of their own constituents.
If you want Ed to take up a particular case on your behalf, we need to confirm that you are a constituent. So please ensure that you have included your full name and full postal address. If this is not included with your email, please could you resend with a full postal address. Then we will be able to deal properly with your query.
If you are emailing with a personal case from Morley, Churwell, Drighlington, Gildersome, Tingley, East Ardsley, West Ardsley, Lofthouse, Thorpe or Robin Hood, where Ed is currently the Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the next election, then Ed will usually contact Colin Challen MP on your behalf.
If you have already sent your address, or emailed Ed before, then please accept our apologies for the inconvenience of this email.
Because of volume of emails, we cannot acknowledge emails directly - but if you are a current or prospective constituent and have included your name and address we will respond by post shortly.
If you are emailing Ed in his capacity as Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families, we will forward your email to his department - or you can email Ed directly at:
dcsf.ministers@dcsf.gsi.gov.uk
Kind regards
Carol Moran
Constituency Office Manager
don't know what good it is going to be speaking to colin challen when it is his mr balls's views i want, him being the prospective new mp !'"
That is just the auto-reply e-mail from his office... I got one as well. The bit about Colin Challen is all to do with parliamentary protocol. If people from the new areas of the Morley bit of Morley and Outwood, not currently in Ed's seat of Normanton, want Ed to help on a current issue (before 6th May) then they must contact their sitting MP, which is Collin. Normally, MP's just pass letters on, so as to avoiding people having to write twice.
As I said, I think everyone who has written to him on the issue (and if you have included your name and address) will get a letter from him in due course.
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Quote ="crowt123"and email reply from mr balls dept:-
Thank you for your email message
Ed is always keen to receive email messages from people locally and from across the country. He reads all these emails and replies to as many as he can.
However, Parliamentary protocol dictates that Members of Parliament can only take up specific individual cases on behalf of their own constituents.
If you want Ed to take up a particular case on your behalf, we need to confirm that you are a constituent. So please ensure that you have included your full name and full postal address. If this is not included with your email, please could you resend with a full postal address. Then we will be able to deal properly with your query.
If you are emailing with a personal case from Morley, Churwell, Drighlington, Gildersome, Tingley, East Ardsley, West Ardsley, Lofthouse, Thorpe or Robin Hood, where Ed is currently the Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the next election, then Ed will usually contact Colin Challen MP on your behalf.
If you have already sent your address, or emailed Ed before, then please accept our apologies for the inconvenience of this email.
Because of volume of emails, we cannot acknowledge emails directly - but if you are a current or prospective constituent and have included your name and address we will respond by post shortly.
If you are emailing Ed in his capacity as Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families, we will forward your email to his department - or you can email Ed directly at:
dcsf.ministers@dcsf.gsi.gov.uk
Kind regards
Carol Moran
Constituency Office Manager
don't know what good it is going to be speaking to colin challen when it is his mr balls's views i want, him being the prospective new mp !'"
That is just the auto-reply e-mail from his office... I got one as well. The bit about Colin Challen is all to do with parliamentary protocol. If people from the new areas of the Morley bit of Morley and Outwood, not currently in Ed's seat of Normanton, want Ed to help on a current issue (before 6th May) then they must contact their sitting MP, which is Collin. Normally, MP's just pass letters on, so as to avoiding people having to write twice.
As I said, I think everyone who has written to him on the issue (and if you have included your name and address) will get a letter from him in due course.
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| Seem to remember Mr Balls coming on the old official Wakey forum canvessing for votes saying he would support a new stadium not heard anything from him since so no surprise there.
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| Quote ="J.T"Seem to remember Mr Balls coming on the old official Wakey forum canvessing for votes saying he would support a new stadium not heard anything from him since so no surprise there.'"
I think you might find that a letter of support from Ed Balls was included with the application... is that correct Khlav Kalash?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think you might find that a letter of support from Ed Balls was included with the application... is that correct Khlav Kalash?'"
I stand corrected what an honourable guy...
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think you might find that a letter of support from Ed Balls was included with the application... is that correct Khlav Kalash?'"
Not sure but there is a quote from him in the Community Trust Newmarket Prospectus backing the development.
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| He also blanks out his name from the letter... well, I am so against this development and wish to stand up and be counted, air my views, exercise my democratic right to object... however, would like to keep my identity secret, is that ok?
Take a bow Mr Face the Future! What a weasel!'"
You seem to air your views and have your say quite abit so, will you be telling us your name and where you live?
As for Ldfs udps any body can read the planning portals and distinguish the difference, the point is under present Law this development has massive hurdles to over come.
The developers are wearing the Wildcats Like an ill fitting mask. The question I ask is why would a developer want to commit to a £20m stadium if they will have no problems getting planning permission. And further more if it is a sweatener so as to speak, who chose a rugby stadium. Surely it would have been better to ask the public what they wanted on the site? And as for community stadium, the community do not need a stadium, Wakefield wildcats do.
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| Quote ="rugbyball":2vsuhdfgHe also blanks out his name from the letter... well, I am so against this development and wish to stand up and be counted, air my views, exercise my democratic right to object... however, would like to keep my identity secret, is that ok?
Take a bow Mr Face the Future! What a weasel!'"
And so do you,so are you going to tell us what your name is and where you live and what your problem with this development is.How do you know the community don't need the stadium,yes Trinity need a new stadium but to say the community don't need one is just incorrect,you don't think once it's built it would be used by amateur rugby/football,schools comps,many other community stadiums are successful in getting kids into sport through sport trusts etc,maybe we could get some big concerts in the stadium,it may get a chance to be used for England Rugby League games.The facilities are open to the public to use the gym and practice picture for 5 a side football,business' can use the facilities for functions and other things,the list is endless for what this could do for the community.Community stadiums are in use successfully all over the country so why not Wakefield it's not as if we don't need one.
As far as asking the community what they want in the development that just doesn't happen for obvious reasons that the public don't know what business' to attract or are needed in the area.
Look at 41 industrial est. nobody wanted that in Wrenthorpe and Outwood ,locals said the same thing that some of the people against this say now but it has been a great success for the community with companies like Coca-Cola and Morrisons putting main depots their as well as Panasonic,Slazenger and many others people want to see change,development and jobs in their community as long as it's not near them.
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