I think Fifita is one of those players who will always carry a bit of weight and its fitness rather than his weight that counts. Having said that I'd always include him as he makes a huge difference when he's on the pitch.
Not sure with Chubbs though. We played you in the pre season friendly and most players have had injuries fixed up in the close season. Couldn't believe the amount of strapping that Huby had on. Elbows, wrists, and fingers. Things can only get worse when the season starts.

Huby has played virtually every game this season and been very good. Don't feed the trolls.

realistic or pessimistic?
If you were a Giants fan (currently in 8th place) and you lose your first fixture of 7, then there is a realistic chance that you will finish 8th.
If you are a Trinity fan (currently in 5th place) and you lose your first fixture of 7, then there is a realistic chance that you will still finish higher than 8th.
The combinations of points distribution are relatively limited. For one team to win, another has to lose.
Only one team can win all their games and only one can lose all theirs.
Even in the most pessimistic view of Wakefield not winning any games, finishing 8th is still not that likely.
If Huddersfield win they still need to beat another 2 teams to finish above us. Who will that be?
It's not impossible for us to finish bottom, and we usually flatter to deceive, but it's less than likely.

Huby has been one of our best in my opinion.
He's often the one that gets things going again when we've lost momentum in both defense and attack.
Key player in our pack.

I agree, over the season I think he has been our 3rd best middle player behind Fifita and Arona although I have been impressed with Adam Walker as well.

All that strapping chubbs as you affectionately call him was what he brought with him from shudds and had nothing to do with us, contrary to what you say that things can only get worse when the season starts, he in fact has excelled himself and unrecognisable from the player we got from shudds, maybe we should give more credit to our coaching staff and our fitness regime, because the club has turned his career around which was clearly going down the pan there.

It's what we do at Wakey, we make good even better, and as a Cas fan I'm surprised you didn't realise that, because that's exactly what they do.

You're spot on.

You're mad. HTH

Huby is one of the Wakey players who would get in every other SL team starting 17. He is quality, fantastic signing by MC and his team

Really...hull, cas (who let him go), salford, leeds, shudds (who let him go), wigan...i can go on...

Have you actually watched any games this season?

You are obviously mad as a box of frogs or just a troll

I'll always have an affinity to huby. He was brilliant for us for 11 seasons, and a very consistent performer.

Right now, I'd probably have him back in the squad, but not as a direct replacement for Millington (if we're strictly talking about "ball playing front rowers"icon_wink.gif

When he went to Huddersfield I was confident that we'd let him go at the right time, and had his best years out of him.

I wouldn't go as far as to say he's playing "better than ever" right now... But I'm pleased that he's somewhere near to his consistent best.

He will always be underrated which, in a way, has always made him very likeable for me. I tend to appreciate those kinda players more

Think he's fitted in well here, he seems to be playing with a smile on his face and really enjoying himself.

He does.

He always seemed to enjoy playing at cas, being a smaller club, but with a strong community presence and fairly close knit following. Wakefield is very similar.

Huddersfield couldn't be further from that.

Only my assumption but he seems to want that closer knit environment that he was used to at cas, but lost at Huddersfield.

Maybe. Just a guess.

One of his team mates doing the dirty on him probably didn't help either.

Yeah, that can't have helped

Huby as been great for us this season as have all the squad, to say owt different is laughable.

When players like Fafita and Huby are missing there is usually some kind of statement saying injured or whatever but I haven't seen or heard anything. All seems very strange to me.

Yes, just says they are omitted, which usually implies left out.

It's just my opinion but since big Dave hurt his leg he's not been great, so based on form perhaps it is just a simple drop - which is good as no player is picked on reputation. Huby is a bit harder to work out.

Sure Chester has said previously that Huby hadn't been able to train much lately to enable him to play so maybe they are just giving him an extended rest to try and manage whatever injury issues he is carrying

Chester interview said Hiby has a knee injury that they are trying to manage, but will need surgery at end of season

Apologies i forgot it was a big game for us and these days our backsides fall out when they come around. Forget the top 4, ain't going to happen.

Huby struggles with daily tasks let alone play a game. Horses mouth tonight.

I haven't seen subsequent games but I thought Fifita was immense against us.

Just looking back to our pre season friendly I couldn't believe the amount of strapping Chubbs had on display. Off season is when you usually get these things fixed up.