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| As deehell has said losing smith is more important than losing a player. Sends out a bad message, we will sell anyone for the right price.
We were building a team around smith. Our pack has not been that effective this year, and it will take at least a season for a new half back to bed in. Time we have not got.
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| Quote ="deeHell"In the context of this team and our situation I think he's more important. I can only see a mass of negative reaction to this. The fans that have already purchased STs will feel cheated for one, how many of them will honour their monthly payments? I can only see this having a very demoralising effect on the players leaving it an impossible task to getting any kind of decent performance in the next 2 games. Two hammerings in the last 2 games are going to have a massive bearing on the sale of STs.
If we don't lose any other players else I feel we may have a fighting chance next season, History shows we do well in adversity. It's the financial damage that will be done by this sale (the knock on effect).
Nothing from the club as usual, but then again I don't want to hear from Elston because like many other the other fans I don't trust a word he says. The guy has been shown to be a billy liar!'"
Exactly !!
Its not the player its the context of the situation that alarms me. Lets not forget the CCJ',s and winding up orders plus the loan from the RFL the club could be on the brink of going under again. If we manage to stay afloat all we have to look forward to is a life in the lower divisions.
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| official statement on website but also mentions we turned down offer for Kirmond as well which is a positive.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"He was a good player just Tim Smith showed he could offer alot more thus he called the shots.
Some people wrote Isaac off wrongly.'"
He showed zilch.
He was poor in defence, maybe not such a problem.
In attack he was slow, failed to take on the line and only had a flat pass.
Off the field I don't think he was enjoying himself that much either.
Tbf to the club they gave him plenty of time and made the right decision.
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"Am I the only fan who doesn't actually think he's that great? Sure he does great things occasionally but our overall control of a game and last tackle plays are pretty woeful and that comes down to the halves. Some of the time I get the feeling he wants to show his full repertoire of plays rather than doing what is effective.
My only concern is that we find a competent half to replace him who is a bit more of an all rounder and plays the percentages better. We are thin on proper halves as it is.'"
I do think the same. he played for a contract last year and done not much this year. Ben played well until he got picked for England has been crap this year and as for Agar and the French thing, bloody hell
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"Am I the only fan who doesn't actually think he's that great? Sure he does great things occasionally but our overall control of a game and last tackle plays are pretty woeful and that comes down to the halves. Some of the time I get the feeling he wants to show his full repertoire of plays rather than doing what is effective.
My only concern is that we find a competent half to replace him who is a bit more of an all rounder and plays the percentages better. We are thin on proper halves as it is.'"
I do think the same. he played for a contract last year and done not much this year. Ben played well until he got picked for England has been crap this year and as for Agar and the French thing, bloody hell
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| Isn't the problem for the club now, and in the future, that we do not own our home? The only assets are stock in the club shop and whatever value a player's contract is.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Felt the same when we sold Nigel Wright, the same when Poching and a few others went after stopping up. Said i would never go again. But if it's in your blood, it's in your blood. Perfect opportunity for Agar to make a name for himself and get the young 'ens blooded. We have sold players, gone into administration, CVA's, had points deducted but still managed not to finish bottom. This is what makes me keep coming back. It may not be pretty but that's Wakey!'"
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Sounds like we finally have a proper business brain running the club, can't argue with why he's sold Tim Smith. They will be an interesting team to watch next year!
Thanks for the 'spark' Tim, good luck at Salford.
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Sounds like we finally have a proper business brain running the club, can't argue with why he's sold Tim Smith. They will be an interesting team to watch next year!
Thanks for the 'spark' Tim, good luck at Salford.
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| Who will be our clubs super hero? No Wakefield Wizard now
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Who will be our clubs super hero? No Wakefield Wizard now'"
Captain Kirmo!
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| Look on the bright side - its put the "Tim Smith to Cas Tigers" rumours to bed !
What a partnership though Chase n Smith are gonna be.
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| Its a pity Carter wasn't the one to do the recent Radio Leeds interview.
Quite a rallying call.
Backs to the wall boys........yet again.
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| So, Salford have bought the two most influential players from 2 teams they will probably be fighting it out with next year to avoid relegation.London are just about odds on to be one of the other clubs for the drop, and Cas have been doing their fair share of recruiting.
Next season is gonna be tough, but all these people saying they want refunds on season tickets etc, need to think if they actually want a club in super league or not. Because we need everyone to start pulling together a putting a bit extra in to the clubs pockets. Even if it's just buying an extra bit of merch from the shop, every little helps. Otherwise if we don't generate some profits soon, we might not have a club at all.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"So, Salford have bought the two most influential players from 2 teams they will probably be fighting it out with next year to avoid relegation.London are just about odds on to be one of the other clubs for the drop, and Cas have been doing their fair share of recruiting.
Next season is gonna be tough, but all these people saying they want refunds on season tickets etc, need to think if they actually want a club in super league or not. Because we need everyone to start pulling together a putting a bit extra in to the clubs pockets. Even if it's just buying an extra bit of merch from the shop, every little helps. Otherwise if we don't generate some profits soon, we might not have a club at all.'"
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| Agree with above two posts.
London if they are still in SL next season look a knocking bet to be the main wooden spoonists.
If we don't want to be in the mix we need to get this club backed to the hilt and the directors also need to be looking for what investment they can to compliment the backing of the supporters.
Other clubs are recruiting and recruiting well, so do we.
It's gonna be right at the bottom next year and anyone who thinks it isn't going to be a struggle is misguided.
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| Agree totally with the above posts, just wish the statement was made last night before the newspaper found out.
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| With the statement from he club, Id imagine that there wont be a high profile replacement for Tim Smith and we'll be running with a very inexperienced Bobby goulding Jnr. It looks like Jarrod Sammut is out of favour at bradford, which would be a good replacement...
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| Rather have kirmond than smith. Good choice by Carter. Actually looking forward to next season after the statement today seems finally someone with a little sense is running the club.
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| Weve lost a scrum half if hes not replaced then its gonna be Goulding/kaye and Wildie, all the fans calling for youth to be given a chance well here we are this is the here and now perhaps the dual reg will have done them the world of good to get some first team experience and a smattering of SL game sto introduce them to the big league, a full pre season now and a couple of games now will be the way forward.
Tim is a loss but no one is bigger than the club after all what do we have young lads for?
The Chairman has but a frank to the point statement out with a rallying call if the fans get behind the club then if over 40000 buy in that money will go into the team.
Its a bit like Dragons Den then your in or your out some on here seem to be out already but I have my ticket and looking forward to next season backing the team. I have to say Tim has not been as good this year yes he can be brilliant on his day but when he's off he's off. Tuson coming in will tighten us up and after all albeit we are not in the 8 we have lost loads of games by a small margin. If its youth next season then bring it on it looks like at the moment no one else is out of the door and lee Smith has committed.
Bring it on are you in or out?
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| Quote ="RealSteel89"Rather have kirmond than smith. Good choice by Carter. Actually looking forward to next season after the statement today seems finally someone with a little sense is running the club.'"
Running the club as a business is certainly a good thing....however, due to the level of finances, Im expecting is to be well run, to be breaking even and maybe even making a small profit......
....... but playing our rugby in the first division and not superleague. It saddens me to say, but I don think the club has a superleague future without a sugar daddy backer.
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| .... and we have resigned Ali and Lee S
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| told you he had signed for salford a montha go..... oh btw kirkmond is next lol
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| Quote ="ex-salfordian"told you he had signed for salford a montha go..... oh btw kirkmond is next lol'"
Have you got an inset day on Monday?
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| Quote ="ex-salfordian"told you he had signed for salford a montha go..... oh btw kirkmond is next lol'"
He hadn't signed a month ago and there is no such player as Kirkmond. 'Lol'.
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