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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"It’s the footprint of the actual building and does not include external areas such as car parks.'"
thanks SC
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Yes and it was to be covered in a new S106 Agreement with the Unilateral Undertaking being torn up. However when we received the draft terms for the new S106 Agreement they were totally unacceptable to the Trust and the Club and were rejected.'"
Box is a liar and a worm! Time for public demonstration in the city centre. Get full media presence there! Seriously its time needs to be organised
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Box is a liar and a worm! Time for public demonstration in the city centre. Get full media presence there! Seriously its time needs to be organised'"
Seriously you need to be careful with your comments on sites like this, you could potentialy find yourself in bother unless you have evidence to back up your statements. Just a word of advice thats all.
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| This subject is very hard to moderate.
If you are specific about any wrong doing whether about being a liar or commuting fraud I'll have to delete the post and it'll be a final warning too.
Saying things like NGB4C has said is not good but if you don't keep doing it in can let the conversation run.
It's important to keep this discussiong going. Heed RWAB's advice please.
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| If it was a film. Wakefield council know cas new ground not getting built .Offer to build at belle view;new contract mr Carter does not know this.Refuses offer takes club out of district; yorkcourt now got newmarket land. As a thank you to wakefield council build cas ground but as i say it is just a film.
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| If it was a film. Wakefield council know cas new ground not getting built .Offer to build at belle view;new contract mr Carter does not know this.Refuses offer takes club out of district; yorkcourt now got newmarket land. As a thank you to wakefield council build cas ground but as i say it is just a film.
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| Why haven't the RL given the same ultimatums to Cas? There ground is as equally unsuitable for RL as Belle Vue,and the new Cas stadium seems as far away from reality as ours is. How long ago is it that there was that picture published of somebody cutting the first sod for the new Cas stadium?
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Seriously you need to be careful with your comments on sites like this, you could potentialy find yourself in bother unless you have evidence to back up your statements. Just a word of advice thats all.'"
Telling lies, corruption or just plain inept the evidence is that we still don't have the community stadium/facilities we were promised.
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| I would say in some instances worse.
I looked around when there last season, found it hard to work out where they hold their hospitality.
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| Big day tomorrow regarding stadium according to league express.
Up the Trin
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| When it comes to ground issues I am fast becoming a glass half empty Guy
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Box is a liar and a worm! Time for public demonstration in the city centre. Get full media presence there! Seriously its time needs to be organised'"
What's stopping you???
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| Watching Victoria live on BBC this morning Mary creagh talking about a cabinet in a cabinet I realised she was talking about the govenment and not Wakefield Council, though the council seems to be that
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| Take it didn't say much in the league express, is there a meeting today?
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| Trinity have met with solicitors today according to RL press.
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| Trying to get my head round all this, the club are taking legal advice?
Against whom? The council? Peter Box?
What are we hoping to achieve?
Are Yorkcourt going to be a part of the process?
Has the "unofficial" trust been registered yet?
Does anyone, including the council know who is to be involved?
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| The advice they appear to be taking is regards taking the WMDC to the High Court rehgrding the Council's alleged "Dereliction of Duties" against Trinity and the citizens of Wakefield.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Trying to get my head round all this, the club are taking legal advice?
Against whom? The council? Peter Box?
What are we hoping to achieve?
Are Yorkcourt going to be a part of the process?
Has the "unofficial" trust been registered yet?
Does anyone, including the council know who is to be involved?'"
Council - Dereliction of there Duty to enforce the 106 agreement whilst by-passing the Trust and raising the trigger point would be my guess.
No point suing Yorkcourt they will just go bust and reappear as something else. No it's WMDC as the governing body that is vulnerable. Lots of cases of local authorities being successfully sued for all sorts of things.
Now whether it will be a success or not I don't know. How strong the case is nobody on here knows, only the Club and more importantly the Trust know that and they for obvious reasons aren't saying. You have to assume that as intelligent people they know they have a case which the Lawyers will hopefully confirm.
Forget about the unofficial Trust, if that were ever going to appear it would have done by now. Now we have started proceedings any 'new' trust would have no legal validity at all. Our Trust is the only Trust and was legally recognised as such during he 106 enquiry - it's a red herring IMHO.
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| There was the infamous "Donnygate" a few years ago. What we need is a "Wakey" gate exposing all the guilty parties if any decision goes against WMDC.
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| Quote ="Redscat"There was the infamous "Donnygate" a few years ago. What we need is a "Wakey" gate exposing all the guilty parties if any decision goes against WMDC.'"
It's hard to believe that Peter Box and his stooges Mackey and Walker and co have not made a lot of enemies through the years.
I assume the lawyers will do this but if anyone knows any dirty secrets or of someone who might please let the Trust know.
Even if they can't supply any ammo they may wish to chip into the fund in the hope of seeing these toads get a black eye.
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| Quote ="vastman"Council - Dereliction of there Duty to enforce the 106 agreement whilst by-passing the Trust and raising the trigger point would be my guess.'"
I think you're right - and that boring link I posted last week was quite a comprehensive essay on LA's and their legal obligation around S106 agreements; and it referred to quite a few examples of case law where authorities have failed in that regard, and been sued.
I can't see YC being the subject of any legal case - but they'll certainly be named and hopefully embarrassed; same goes for Rodney Walker, who won't enjoy being portrayed as a bad actor, which he most certainly has been.
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| I think Peter Box is immune to criticism. Having been in that post for so long. By now his ears should be mere charcoal stubs after all the remarks that I've heared about him and that woman sidekick, Jeffries. The one that I think would be most embarrassed is RMW. He likes to come across as a man of the people and I was at the SoS hearing when he stood in the witness box and boldly claimed that," He was instrumental in Delivering the new Webmbley Stadium" (or words to that effect). He must feel something of an idiot when he couldn't even deliver a modest community stadium in Yorkshire.
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| My though on it is that if the club have a strong case, the lawyers will confirm this, then the council will start to worry. Worry them enough with the prospect of having to defend themselves in court where little secrets may become exposed to the public, and they will quickly throw the developer under the bus in the hope of saving themselves before it makes it to court. What happens then is anyone's guess. My take is that best case we can hope for is that the council will loan the trust the money to build a stadium which the interest will need to be paid on, and the council will force the newmarket developer to actually promote and develop the site so the council can recoup the costs
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| this legal process will take years to come to a solution- we have about 3 weeks to make a decision not years!! we are supposed to have a game at bell vue in 36 days!!
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| Quote ="BOJ042"this legal process will take years to come to a solution- we have about 3 weeks to make a decision not years!! we are supposed to have a game at bell vue in 36 days!!'"
No reason that game can't go ahead, the lease is until the end of the year at least
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