you ought to hang your head in shame

he might not be my choice but I'm willing to see what Agar can do

I'd be more upset if Agar started 2012 with more or less the same squad that started 2011.

We have not played a ball in anger yet and the knives are out give the bloke a chance.

Agar has come in and seems to be ringing the changes. This is what was required if we aspire to greater things and a higher finish. He is doing his job! Gone are the days of the comfortable softhand approach which a coach who has been here and become part of the furniture.

I'm in agreement that changes need to be made and while I may not agree to all I accept it is a head coach doing a job he should be.

So (allegedly) he has told Wildie his passing is not up to scratch. GOOD! he is pointing out areas his players need to improve! It's up to Wildie to work on that part of his game and better himself. He is a pro, take it on the chin and improve it. He is a pro in a pro sport and his aspirations need to be matched by his committment to improve and skills.

Get off Agars back! Let's see how he goes.

There is no place for that kind of attitude round here I sense a lynching in the offing, let the mob commence...

From what I've been told he's straight down the line with folk and will tell them exactly how it is. Some people will be able to live with that others will possibly take offence to it. Can't see davey or wildie being pushed out, especially not permanently as they have been impressing agar with the way they are training. Sounds like there's going to be some more comings and goings with Higgins being released and keiran Hyde possibly going to ply his trade in France.

On another note just been reading Martin clawsons tweets and the fastest players on the hills were old timer motu tony wildie and Ellis just in front of Danny kirmond and for me another surprising one in Matt James! Sounds like the players are working their socks off and there seems to be some good banter going off between them all.

Changes were alwAys going to be made and obviously some players were going to be upset by these. I hope Moore gets a fair crack to prove his self as I thought he showed enough promise in the little I saw of him to show he could handle the step up to super league. For me we've got to give agar a chance he probably wasn't anyone kon here's first choice but he's here now and I don't see the point in bagging him before a ball has even been kicked, surely it's better to get behind him give him support and see what he can deliver.

For me Moore needs to spend a lot of time bulking up, he has the other elements of his game well under way but needs that extra bit of muscle on him- much like how Broughy changed form between being promoted with Cas and the end of his first year with us.
I believe Moore does have potential at SL level & if nothing else I'm glad to have him in the squad.

Keep on training hard Moorey- prove em wrong!

We all have to get used to the many changes taking place and accept our new coaches ideas and methods wont please everybody, but the facts are, if we don't make those changes we'll never get anywhere. I for one haven't been excited about a forthcoming season in a long time and sense good times are on the way back. Good on Agar for getting rid of those not deemed up to scratch. He ain't stupid, he's not gonna let anybody go with more than potential, and after looking at the squad as a whole these last few weeks he'll know exactly where we are and who he wants to retain. We want winners at Wakefield Trinity and I feel that this new era dawning is going to create a winning mentality. If we aim high I believe we will achieve high, and what Agar has at his disposal now should ensure more than respectability. Let him use his coaching skills now to mould us into a team.

Agar out.
How ridiculous can some people get.
Thank goodness all the rational people have come out with sensible assessments of the situation.

So has he officially signed then??

You will be glad to know i've been working on my booing technique in the off season, it's coming on a treat

Don't know but reading between the lines he's at least on trial, conversing with the rest of the lads and Martin clawson on twitter.

looks like another one of the 'Non Agar signings' he does not want..............how else do you explain no announcement of him signing........

How about this bizarre suggestion...

Maybe James is on trial and simply wants to get his head down and avoid press embarrassment of sorts to his rep if it did not work out both ways...

no trial.....guaranteed.

So what?

That means that our coach is setting his own standards for the squad and the team - as it should be - and, given the fact that there hasn't been an announcement, the club appear to backing their manager.

Also, if James is in training, then we can assume he isn't yet out of the equation and perhaps he has the opportunity to claim his place?

ok pal you have a 'stab' at what you think. your entitled to your opinion like everyone......

Give over; clearly, Richard Agar is running the club like a Victorian mill owner, riding rough-shod over the rights and dignity of the playing staff and ripping up contracts left right and centre. For good measure, he's sacking perfectly promising young English players, presumably because he doesn't like the cut of their gib, and replacing them with his Antipodean pals.

I understand that next season, any flibbety-gibbet who knocks on in his own 20 will be summarily horse-whipped in Cats Bar.

You may jest, but I would advocate something along similar lines

Well I'm behind any method that will help increase concentration levels as that is one of the most important factors behind ANY teams performance

Yawn..... Can't we change the record.

We had youth, they had a chance an failed and that's that. We are bringing in new players to build a foundation for the future. Let's not hang a guy before he has had a chance to prove himself and his decisions. People who play for him love him and the general feedback from the remaining players is its much better.

Give them all a chance, I am all for youth but the structure around them has to be right too. Rome wasn't built in a day and all that.

I thinks its been a interesting debate, and in the main debated with reason and common sense.

Eveyones got different views on the club and Agar, thats how it should be.

Agar out

I agree that we should`nt judge R.A. before a ball has been passed but then again he is judging the young players abilities without seeing them in 1st team action.
I know that when you get 2 coaches opinions of players they will give 2 differing views but I do believe that when J.K. said that some of the youth players have a good future ahead of them down at Belle Vue I don`t think that he was flannelling the supporters, & I know some will say "then why did`nt JK select them" but last season was a damage limitation season as we did`nt have the talent on display ,which RA will have for this coming year.

Both Sam and Matt James were in total fitness with rest of the team on saturday morning in wakey training gear.. I've seen Sam in their before so might just be co=incidence but he was donning the same gear as the rest..

Perhaps if the players will train for nowt - then we are saving their wages? Seems a bit odd if they are not on the payroll tho. Not sure I would keep turning up at work if I wasn't getting paid for it?