i have taken the offer , you can get a refund if you don't to pay the extra monies if the 2.5k are not sold .
this is my worry the club may announce 2.3k sales then a week later have to announce it now stands at 2.1 as 200 have taken a refund



hardly super league standard.

great idea in principle but to cap it was in hindsight pure madness .

a little like a double glazing firm having a "this weekend only" sale

I can only imagine you are being deliberately, let's say "obtuse". It is very clear - 2500 means the cost will be held at £100, less means price is £175.

It is written on the website (perhaps not clearly enough), that if it is not met, people have the choice of a refund or paying the extra £75.

Can you not grasp the confusion caused by this, if people want to take back the £100 in the morning they are legally entitled to do so, or so i've just been informed.

What are you confused by?

I have agreed to buy a ticket for £100.

That price only stands if 2499 other people do the same.

If they do, the deal I made is binding.

If they don't, I have the OPTION of having my £100 returned OR of paying an extra £75.

I can't see what the confusion is! It's simple!!

Read Sluggers post and his views on the "paid in full" and its nothing in the offer is legally binding.

I can't remember if there was "T's & C's" box to tick when I bought mine, TBH.

I imagine the deposit is what's "paid in full" - I would expect that to be the club's answer.

It will cost you a lot more than the cost of the ST to challenge this in a court! The club would, quite rightly, just give you your money back.

I don't understand why this is becoming such a drama.

If you didn't understand the deal, why did you buy into it?

I am happy with the deal dboy, its not an issue for me at all but he last two people i've spoken to seem to think they have bought season tickets and paid in full.

1 guy is at all home games and the other i see at most games, both stressed they had bought and paid for a season ticket at £100.

Now they may both be stupid i don't know but when i explained they were having none of it.

sorry to resurrect this - but I posted the following a week or so ago to make sure everyyone knew exactly what the stance was - the offer should have read something like:

Pledge £100 now - if we reach 2,500 tickets before 30/9 that's all you'll pay - if we don't then we will come basck to you for a further £75 and the price for everyone will be £175 from there on. If you don't want to pay the extra £75 we'll give you your £100 back - see how easy it would have been to make this clear? only wakefield etc

I must admit, unless the wording in the article on the website has been changed in the meantime, I can't see what the issue is here. You pay your 100 quid as a down payment "in full" to subscribe to the offer. If the target is reached, you get your season ticket for 100 quid. If not, you can either pay the extra 75 or get your money back. I'm no legal boffin, mind, so there may be some issue with the term "in full" that I'm not aware of. As a layman, though, the interpretation appears straightforward.

Don't know if its changed or not and like i've said i'm not confused

but other seem to be a bit unsure and thats why i've questioned it.

Eveb if the wordings been changed there are plenty of paper copys about.

If T's&C's are on the web site, they are elusive. They may be right at the end of the buying process...

I guess that if the target is not met, your 2 people will be asking for their money back - taking this down the "legal" route is not an option - the first solicitors letter will cost you more than the ST itself!

I would be fairly confident that both AG and the Club, know their legal position exactly. It doesn't strike me as the kind of error AG would make.

If they hadn't time limited the offer then how many do you think would have been sold so far? A lot less than we have, that's for sure.
Most people will hang on as long as possible before buying which then means the club fail to get their hands on the money when they most need it.
If we wait until January before finding how much we've got available to spend on players, who do you think we will find to sign? The club needs the money now so they can plan properly for next season, not just guess and get it wrong. The idea is to make the club more sustainable and risking money they might not get isn't the way to do that is it??

Don't know what this is all about, we [uwill[/u get 2500 takers
We aren't too far away, just one last push (sounds like overheard in the maternity suite)
Keep the faith, this time next week all this 'worry' will be irrelevant.

Further than Fordy, this the EARLY BIRD OFFER.

It's the deal you get by stumping up your cash early, for the very reasons you gave.

If certain posters want to but theirs in January, i.e. not early, they can. They will just have to pay more.

Some people seem not to grasp that.

Windows cleaned. Back on topic...

you are correct oh tall one

There were no terms and conditions, because I was looking for them. Although you could ask for a refund, I'm not sure the club could get out of it if people said, "no thank you, I don't want a refund, I want the item I have bought and for which you have said I have paid the full price."

On the other hand, I ought to say that although I am a solicitor, I have only worked in criminal law. My contract and consumer law knowledge has not been utilised since my undergraduate days, which was two decades ago.

Cast your mind back to your undergraduate days. There are 5 elements to a Contract, they are:

1. Invitation to Treat.
2. Offer.
3. Acceptance.
4. Consideration.
5. Performance.

The flyer offering ST's at £100 is the Invitation to Treat. You have made an Offer of £100.00 and the Club has accepted your offer (Acceptance) by taking your money which is the Consideration. Performance is the handing over to you of the ST but this has not happened yet because they have not been printed.

I believe that you have a contact and the Club must give you a ST for the £100 you have given them. I do not believe Contractually they can ask for any additional sum.

As I have posted on the TV Advert thread I dont know why everyone is getting so wound up. If you have committed to purchase a ST for £100 you will get one whether the traget of 2,500 is achieved or not. There is no way the Club are going to risk a PR and Financial disaster by asking for more money (which is contractually wrong in my opinion) or giving people their money back.

Here's the link to the original article on the website: www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... w/2011/08/ "Payment is required in full for this fantastic offer" reads to me like you can't split payments, not pay 100 quid and you get your season ticket regardless. The paragraphs before and after the hotly disputed "in full" statement make this clear, at least to me. You could argue whether payment in full means the same as pay the full price, but given the context, I can't see what the debate is about. But then I'm not a solicitor, and don't earn a crust arguing about the many possible interpretations of the bleeding obvious.

Here's the link to the original article on the website: www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... w/2011/08/ "Payment is required in full for this fantastic offer" reads to me like you can't split payments, not pay 100 quid and you get your season ticket regardless. The paragraphs before and after the hotly disputed "in full" statement make this clear, at least to me. You could argue whether payment in full means the same as pay the full price, but given the context, I can't see what the debate is about. But then I'm not a solicitor, and don't earn a crust arguing about the many possible interpretations of the bleeding obvious.

I was told on the 'phone about the possibility of being asked for another £75, but having received this email I just don't see how they can now ask for more. Without this confirmation maybe, but not now (email received a few days ago, despite me ordering on day 1 of the offer)...

To:-
Xxxxx

From:-
Wakefield Wildcats
Hearwell Stadium
Doncaster Road Wakefield
WF1 5EY


Xxxxxxxxxx

Wakefield Wildcats provides a payment receipt for your
account as follows:-

Date: 23-Sep-2011
Reference: xxxx
Title: Gold
Membership - Ground - Adult (Early Bird)
Details:

Amount: £100.00
(Includes VAT of £0.00 and Administration Charge of £0.00)

Payment Date:
23-Sep-2011


Wildcats Gold Membership  Dear Xxxxx  Thank you for
supporting the Wildcats in the best possible way, by committing as a 2012
Member. We consider every Member a crucial part of Wakefield Trinity
Wildcats Family. Blah blah blah...no mention anwhere that this purchase is in any way conditional.

Hearwell Stadium?? What happened to Rapid Solutions Stadium?

I believe that's what we call an 'details' error. Someone not changed something over. Silly mistake/oversight.

Do we have a current figure as to the number sold??

All been well another 2 golds on Friday/Saturday here

Sorry but I think a lot of you are being really thick on this one. The offer WAS clear but I get the impression some of you will kick off if asked to pay more? If you didn't get the offer in the first place then you should have asked about it then. If you are going to kick off then that shows stupidity on your behalf and in my opinion a lack of support for the club.