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| I think supporters of all colours will realise that it is the individuals responsibility for what they take, not the clubs. To blame a club is wrong. Simple.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I really don't think, other than muppets on here and in real life, that any mud will stick to Trinity. It didn't with other clubs when Hock/Hudson/Bloem were banned.'"
I dont think that any of the so called Wakey muppets on here will blame the club for Newton's indiscretions.
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| I can't believe that some people are praising Newton for holding his hands up and being honest. He was only honest after he was caught! I hope he gets the full 2 year ban and the club then take similar action to what Chelsea did with Mutu.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I can't believe that some people are praising Newton for holding his hands up and being honest. He was only honest after he was caught! I hope he gets the full 2 year ban and the club then take similar action to what Chelsea did with Mutu.'"
I hope they don't. I hope they do whatever's now necessary to terminate his contract and end their association with the player in a dignified manner. The club needs to concentrate on more important things, like the next franchise application, and the team needs to focus on continuing the excellent start to the season. Let's not get bogged down with sideshows like this.
On the positive side (again), those fans - and I include myself amongst them - who never liked Newton as a player before he began his association with Wakefield, and had to suspend belief by supporting him as a player wearing our colours, can now go back to their original opinion of him without any conflict of emotions. That'll do for me.
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| Quote ="**Lynx**"I agree wholeheartedly that it's Newtons problem and he has been incredibly stupid, or at best niaive, and he's the one that should face the consequences, but we all know certain bits of the media seem to love nothing more than to have a go - we have seen all the qotes about "Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Terry Newton tests positive ........." etc. etc. - and in some peoples eyes Trin will be implicated and mud sticks - which is wrong but can happen to a team when the fault is an individuals. We've already read and heard silly comments like "Trin ought to be docked the points they won when Newton was in the team".
I just was asking what everyone thought the Trinity management ought to do, if anything, to stress their disapproval of what's happened. I tend to agree with other posters - cancel his contract but as he has now actually admitted taking something he shouldn't, do they take a stand now or wait until the formal ban if it comes?'"
I wouldn't worry too much about mud sticking to the club given that us and most other clubs have players who have got themselves into drug related or violence related trouble. Hardly a squeaky clean game with an untarnished image.
I assume the club will be taking advice on how to handle this situation regarding bans and cancelling of contracts.
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| Quote ="J.T"I wouldn't worry too much about mud sticking to the club given that us and most other clubs have players who have got themselves into drug related or violence related trouble. Hardly a squeaky clean game with an untarnished image.
I assume the club will be taking advice on how to handle this situation regarding bans and cancelling of contracts.'"
Lionel Hutz, attorney at law?
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| Quote ="**Lynx**"What's your opinion on how the Club should react now Terry Newton has admitted his guilt via the solicitors statement? What should Trinity do to try and repair the reputation of the club, bearing in mind instead of the press, etc. talking about Trinity's great start to the season and the win over the Whinos, its just all about "Drugs cheat Newton"? Do we keep a dignified silence or do we issue a statement, condemning the use of banned substances for whatever reason - zero tolerance, etc. and do we tear up Newton's contract?'"
what is there to rebuild, wakey didnt force the loon to take the stuff, but the club will be tarnished by the uneducated, we still get it at cas over hudson, even though he served his ban
that said , i still dont like wakey and i suppose a lot of you feel the same way about cas
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| Quote ="itsalldarntlane"
that said , i still dont like wakey and i suppose a lot of you feel the same way about cas
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Yup!
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| god are we still discussing this?
he did bad
hefessed up
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move on
ps never liked him anyway!
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| Quote ="chapster"god are we still discussing this?
he did bad
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ps never liked him anyway!'"
Still talking about it on superleague show, so why shouldn't posters on here?
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| Have i missed something or has there been an explanation as to why the suspension has only just started and not in November when the test results where known?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Still talking about it on superleague show, so why shouldn't posters on here?'"
to be fair its their first chance!
we on here have had 5 days!
cant see what there is left to say
he did it, he admitted it, hell leave wakefield, full stop new sentence!
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| Quote ="inside man"Have i missed something or has there been an explanation as to why the suspension has only just started and not in November when the test results where known?'"
Simply because the =#FF0000test was taken in November and the =#FF0000results came back the day he was suspended.
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| Cheers, i thought i had read that the result was known in Novemner.
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| Quote ="chapster"god are we still discussing this?
he did bad
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ps never liked him anyway!'"
Not as simple has that IMHO. You played a confessed drugs cheat and some consideration ought to be given to deducting points. I dont see why the club should benefit.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not as simple has that IMHO. You played a confessed drugs cheat and some consideration ought to be given to deducting points. I dont see why the club should benefit.'" Thats the happy bus you can hear outside grab your coat!
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not as simple has that IMHO. You played a confessed drugs cheat and some consideration ought to be given to deducting points. I dont see why the club should benefit.'"
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Not as simple has that IMHO. You played a confessed drugs cheat and some consideration ought to be given to deducting points. I dont see why the club should benefit.'"
Yes i agree they should take all Wakeys points of them and burn the clubhouse down and take all the grass off the pitch, its the only way.
Don't touch the Brocolli tree though thats going too far.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"'"
If you care to read back through the thread I think you will find different.
I have made a consistent arguement that Newton cheated by taking a performance enhancing substance to which he has now confessed. The report states this was self administered and IMO was designed to allow him to train and recover from injury.
This amounts to cheating and no team should be allowed to benefit from it.
This isnt an anti Wakefield view but a PRO RL one.
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So I guess you dont want to discuss the point ???? but would rather sweep everything under the carpet.
Olympic athletes/teams arent allowed to benefit form cheating why should you. Medals are withdrawn and points deducted form the tables.
IN this case it warrants a 2 -4 points deduction for playing an illegible player IMHO.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"So I guess you dont want to discuss the point ???? [ubut would rather sweep everything under the carpet[/u.
Olympic athletes/teams arent allowed to benefit form cheating why should you. Medals are withdrawn and points deducted form the tables.
IN this case it warrants a[u 2 -4 points deduction for playing an illegible player[/u IMHO.'"
Thats a spray can not a brush
Only if you take the same for not offering a playing surface thats suitable for modern day SL rugby.
I doubt you'll get much support for your opinion from the rest of SL fans TBH.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"So I guess you dont want to discuss the point ???? but would rather sweep everything under the carpet.
Olympic athletes/teams arent allowed to benefit form cheating why should you. Medals are withdrawn and points deducted form the tables.
IN this case it warrants a 2 -4 points deduction for playing an illegible player IMHO.'"
Happy to discuss any of your points!!
Would you like to discuss mine, rugby league is a game played on grass, yet you don't have any on your pitch/quagmire!! Therefore you should be immediately kicked out of the league for breaking the most fundamental rule of the game. I bet we'd get more support for our claim than you would for yours!! Now climb back into your tree!!!
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"So I guess you dont want to discuss the point ???? but would rather sweep everything under the carpet.
Olympic athletes/teams arent allowed to benefit form cheating why should you. Medals are withdrawn and points deducted form the tables.
IN this case it warrants a 2 -4 points deduction for playing an illegible player IMHO.'"
If you care to look back at my opinion on this matter previously in this thread you will see I give a very reasoned case.
Punishing the club and his team mates is not the answer. The sole responsibility of taking a banned substance lies with the user, even if JK had told Kear to take it (which I'm certain he would never do) its up to the person in question to check with the relevant bodies whether it is within the laws of the game to do so. Newton cheated himself, the club, his team mates, his fans and the game, he is now being punished for his errors of judgement. Hell what if TN comes out and says he's been on HGH throughout the whole of his career, do you go back and punish Warrington(academy player there), Leeds, Wigan and Bradford???
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