Without trawling through I guess it was about four years ago, when they changed their name, ground etc, but strangely, not their playing staff

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You are 100% right.

Its all one big plan to earn us more money. Sell all the current players and then £10 buys you a raffle ticket and if your number is called you can play in the next Super league game.

I think when the RFL encouraged the crusaders to take their chosen course of action it really must have ed off hmrc - I remember thinking at the time that the next RFL club to find itself in the would be absoloutely shown no mercy by these people.

In the current climate if I was looking at taking over a club in the wildcats predicament I would be speaking with the people at Red Hall with a view to see how likely it would be that their SL status could be ensured.

Maybe this is why Mr. Parkin elected not to get involved?

It may be the case that by promising a championship club promotion the RFL have dug themselves a hole they can't really get out of (not without the threat of legal action anyway).

I do appreciate what you are going through (I am a vikings fan), the main thing is that Rugby league continues in Wakefield for the foreseeable future. I noticed a lot of posters on here sticking the knife in, however it is not down to the fans to be blamed for what a previous administration has done badly.

Best wishes for the future.

now that is the one out that would make my day please please please

So we have lost 'the golden egg' a big physiological loss to JK

It'd be a very quiet forum!

Get used to it, Widnes had to when they were booted out for Catalans despite finishing second bottom of SL. They were also denied a place 2 years ago when Crusaders were allowed in at the first round of licenses and in hindsight what an absolute disgrace they have been.

I didn't see the RFL running to help Widnes when they went into administration we were deducted 9 points, lost all our best players including Sidlow and Myler to Salford.

Widnes were not granted a license despite a bond of £500,000 being offered by Steve O'Connor to the RFL.

We've all got a sob story. Fact is you have been in SL on the strength of broken promises along with Salford, Cas and Crusaders. I don't remember any support from the "Rugby League Family" when my club were getting on from a great height.

Give over, Widnes didn't get in because of the, going into Administration rule, that has since been removed, but were then given a nod and wink about getting next time, can't see that happening for any teams in the future. Personally I thought you should have been let in last time, but we all know who the RFL wanted instead.

There is no "Rugby League Family" any more...some of our foregone Greats will be turning in their graves at what Redhall has done to "The Greatest Game", what with their expansionist clubs and pie-in-the-sky ideas for Globalisation. Their heads are so far up in the clouds, they haven't a clue as to what's happening on planet earth ...

I don't think many fans were happy with the fact that the Crusaders were fast tracked to SL. The majority would have much preferred Widnes in there with the Crusaders applying this time round if they met the criteria instead of the RL bowing to a chairman of a team who were no where near ready for Rugby in the top flight and have got away with whatever they have wanted ever since all in the name of expansion. We may have been let down by the financial management of the club but John Kear and a couple of the coaches before him have done wonders on the smallest budget in SL and we've never finished bottom. It's the now departed owners of our club who have got us in this mess. No one had a god given right to be in SL but if you are from London or Wales as a fan you don't have that worry when the franchise applications come round. If we have a ground to play in I would watch Wakey in the lower divisions and wouldn't expect them to get back in SL. Next time round it will be another club from the heartlands at the expense of another club that will need propping up.

Pity the RFL were not up front with the rules, instead they allowed our Chairman to invest money in the stadium and facilites in the first 8 months that could have been spread across the longer term while in the Championship. So we went through the farce of applying and all the hopes that gave the fans only to be told you were never going to get in beause of your administration.

Barrow must have been party to that "nod and wink" from the RFL by deliberatley losing the Northrn Rail Cup to us in 2009.

I think not.

It was known prior to the season starting that the finishing in the bottom two positions in 2005 would lead to relegation. It wasn't an anti- Widnes thing.

Hmmm

Some mileage here

The Broncos went into liquidation and re-formed, still in SL is that not a precedent that has been set, perhaps something for Mr Glover to look at and see if there is anything that would support a good fight here.

My take is that I will support the club 100% I do not intend to travel to any away games now this season, unless we play a team in the Cup from a lower Division,

I will reveiw when the SL franchises are announced but I am happy to prepare for Championship rugby and get back to sport and not politics.

We have to look to the future now, if it means getting drubbed every game but taking 800k from Sl or whatever and turning that into profit then that will put us in a strong position when they boot us out!

Cas kept the one promise that really mattered...to tonk your boom and bust outfit in a Grand Final and enter SL through the front door of promotion. When Widnes sneak in on the back of a nice ground but without another GF appearance I think it must be time for you guys to ditch your sob story because previous injustices will have been more than righted.

You are right you were promoted because you won a grand final in the proper days of promotion and relegation and congratulations to you, no argument from me on that.

However you were given a license on the back of broken promises re developing your stadium and facilities along with Trinity and Salford.

We will not sneak in on the back of a nice ground at the next round of licences. If we get in it will be because we will have satisfied the criteria in terms of facilities, on field criteria (NR Cup Winners 2009), junior development (last season we topped the SL U18s Academy league), turnover (over £1 million) and attendances (averages in excess of 2,500).

All the above takes hard work and committment from a dedicated Chairman and management team, support from the fans and local business community. It will not be because we were given a nod and a wink from the RFL.

Check out the licensing criteria because appearing in a Grand Final in the season prior to being awarded a license is not part of it, you are getting confused with the good old days of promotion and relegation.

So promotion on the basis that you haven't won the league you were in during the term of licences?

Cas finished bottom in 2008 anyway didn't they? So playing the P&R success card hardly worth it!

Promotion via the rules set by the governing body voted in by... The current SL clubs

Agreed, i'll continue to support Wakefield Trinity and will be at Belle Vue for every game but i will not travel to any away games whilst in SL, i might just donate what would have been the admission price to the club. When were demoted i'll return to travelling to every game home and away

You mean - the answer to your question is yes.

No as if you win the league you can still go up so not 'on that basis'


Anyway still got 1 year left to win it



And hardly like we'd be the first team...

Like when we sent our kids over the other week to play your first team???

Yes, I think that's what we're hoping for. Similar scenario - you bring your unbeatables to our dump, you get beat by our kids, you go back home. That's what we'd like to see happen. Is that OK... as a wish... for us... with you?