For a bit of balance the Australian Trinity supporter branch was not adverse to referring to those not in the MC is great section by derogatory terms.
I note he never confirmed that his loyalty included purchasing a ST. I know he would not be able to attend but I have one and I knew I could not go. The problem is that in his eyes I was less a supporter because I have never been part of the Carter love in like people like you for example.

Thanks spooks for one I have enjoyed reading your posts which made sense and not at all one sided and for the moment I am also out as they say.

Sums his post up nicely.

His post sums nothing up its just a name calling exercise for people who dont agree with his views.

People come and people go.
Some people go and come back pretending to be someone else (think we know a few of them)
I have no problem with any of that, but I just don't see the need for the drama queen stuff trying to make something out of your exit. If you are leaving, leave simple as that, don't try and get sympathy,that is pathetic.

To answer that I'd have to repeat all the other posts on this subject you've clearly ignored or not understood.

Maybe you have insider knowledge that I dont have but don't think so.

I'll give it a go anyway In answer I was relating to your post of Sat Oct 7th 7.10 pm so your remarks on ignoring or misunderstood would seem strange

"Any club run well run would not have their lossers of 600k and this year would be more if Ellis hadnt contributed"

600k was next to the lowest in SL. And the 600k includes non cash items like depreciation.
The balance sheet backs this up with "cash in bank" Depreciation means that at some time these will have to be replaced hence why they are allowed in balance sheet
To point these are the lowest amount lost clearly points to unsubstantial and not something any responsible c/o of any limited company would put to any shareholders or supporters

Ellis gave us money to spend. If he hadn't given it we wouldn't have spent it so wouldn't have affected the numbers. This was a sponsorship I understand therefore the club made the decision

"Any organisation is judged by profit and loss"
You are correct. So the logic is we are better than all but one of our competitors on this judgement. Not logical we are better than you because we lose less money ?

"We have more debt lost our super league position and insolvent as we cannot afford to repay what we have borrowed."

More debt - correct....and more assets too Incorrect any valuation carried out would mean that our indebtedness would not repeat would not meet our asset value this depreciated once they lost the super league status and incurred long standing debt
Lost our SL position - correct. No one likes that. But we are talking about how the club is run.
Rest my case

We are very much NOT insolvent. You need to look up what that means clearly you are not aware what the definition of insolvency is “if a company cannot meet its current indebtedness then it is insolvent”

And we clearly can afford to pay the loans as 1) we are doing it and 2) the council have already given us a break on it. Inconsistent and contradictory statement we cannot afford to repay the loans as we have to ask for a brake?

"Some mythical income stream from the East stand is going to solve everthing."
Not sure why you think it's mythical. We already have income from hospitality in the Hub. So adding a new, massive, venue will clearly add more. And we have already got bookings.
Must have missed that is the east stand opened? Answer it should have been we are danger of losing thee lucrative xmas income secondly income ? you haven’t taken account of the cost and a few bookings will not mean it will be a money cow its mythical until proven by facts
No one says it'll solve everything but it gets us more money and improves scores on 3 of the 5 IMG sections....which is priceless. Agree but only at a cost which now in championship is not sustainable without millionaire support that Mr Ellis will have to do
"Thank god for someone with will and means" - I assume you mean Ellis? And yes I agree. Glad he's here



I'm not blindly defending. The recruitment and playing side were poor this year and it hurt us. But saying the club is run badly, with the statements above is incorrect.
I guess we have different opinions it has been badly run, but in the clear light of day people will have to judge
We have a fantastic chance now of moving forward and that should be the aim of everyone critic and fan alike.

Just seen Will Dagger with the York ladies team wonder if he is now part of the York setup as per the rumours

Aye it’s alright for him over in Australia to tell us how to support the club, he hasn’t actually physically had to watch the dross the past two/three years.

He has a right to his opinion same as everyone else.

Well try telling him that when he comes back.

His partner plays for York.

They'll be celebrating tonight then

it will be hilarious on here if we have a crap season next year.

You mean like the last few under the incumbents. I think you may have forgotten that shortly they will be all but a memory so as per the song Things can only get better” and I am sorry for you but they will.

I think you just proved his point.

Let's wait and see. I'm looking forward to the new setup but I remember the last time we were in the lower division , it was not all plain sailing.

It will not be plain sailing next season, don't expect an easy ride.
In all honesty it could take one season to assemble a side capable of getting the results and performing on a regular basis.

I mean with money no object and not working from a shoestring. A bit like Shudds really but a division lower.

Like a few others then that give it "large" on here....


.........And they [iactually [/ido live here......

Accepting mediocrity again are we



If we are throwing the resources at it then anything other that 1895, top of league and grand final would be dissapointing.

We will be full time spending a SL wage cap in a league where all but maybe 1 club are full time. I expect results personally. Recruitment has to be bob on.

Some big aggressive forwards, some pace and a bit of quality in the middle. Blank canvas almost to work from.

Accepting mediocrity again are we



If we are throwing the resources at it then anything other that 1895, top of league and grand final would be dissapointing.

We will be full time spending a SL wage cap in a league where all but maybe 1 club are full time. I expect results personally. Recruitment has to be bob on.

Some big aggressive forwards, some pace and a bit of quality in the middle. Blank canvas almost to work from.

From the stuff I am hearing I think you will be disappointed. However everyone is entitled to their opinion and if Trinity having a crap season once more, floats your boat, then fair enough.

If Ellis had not come in we would be talking relegation to division one then it would have been blank canvas to work with Still a lot of dead would at the club ,that still wants clearing out before we can go forward

Nothing floats my boat more than seeing my club win games.
I'm old enough to have seen Challenge Cup Final wins and RL Championship wins and would love a return to that sort of apogee. I've obviously also seen a few relegations, cup final losses and Scott Grix, all of which are part and parcel of giving unwavering support to my club. You can be both happy and sad whilst supporting btw.

My comments were more in readiness to possibly laugh at the narrow minded individuals who presume the grass will be instantly greener and see them turn their venom on our latest saviour.

I’ve seen the glory days like you and your last paragraph is a real worry because a rude awakening awaits.
Ok we are to remain full time and I hope sign some quality players but it will be no cakewalk getting out of the championship!
There are some excellent clubs in Featherstone, Bradford, Halifax, Toulouse or London and Batley! All capable clubs so we’re going to have to be top drawer all season and we may not even do it first time! The knives will be out in a trice from the usual suspects make no mistake!!!

Remember, winning the league/ Grand Final and 1895 Cup help, but that's not the way you get out of Championship next year.
All areas have to be there, though those points may be the difference.