Wouldn't have thought there would be a need to.

Its all very murky has to what when and how this all works BUT i would imagine you could get a refund unless you signed something to say otherwise.

If you look at the offer its full of holes and is not clear (missleading) in the eyes of a solicitor.

Agreed but the posters saying its an option nearer Xmas time when moneys tighter, its not likely to happen.

I disagree.

The information was all there, though perhaps not coherently presented for some people.

As long as 2500 memberships are achieved, the early bird price of £100 will be honoured. Should it not be met people are entitled to decline the offer and have their £100 returned or to pay the extra £75.

Taken directly from the club site - "We can only promise to keep the price down if we get the 2500 fans. If less than 2500 supporters become a member, season ticket prices will revert back to last years early bird price of £175 adults, £95 Concessions and £20 juniors."

sorry yep what i mean is if they sell lets say 2300 and they ask for another 70 quid per ticket im faced with a £280 bill or a £400 refund a differential of £680 in my pocket and a £680 difference out of WTW, and that's the early bird offer. So whats it gonna be ? that pays for a couple of lap taps and a fair sized turkey .

ermmmmm

of course if we sell 2.5K its immaterial as we all smile and collect tickets

but i get this feeling that i/we may of just walked into a cauldron of crud.

Exactly. ???

The season tickets are £100 now, but in October they will be £175 if the target is not met.

There is no mention of increasing the price of the tickets already bought, only future tickets if they don't sell 2500 @ £100 this month.

Asking for further payment on tickets already bought would be crazy.

I can see that dilema, but you have to think ahead to what it will cost you to go to games next year, if you haven't taken the offer.

If times are that tough, "you" perhaps will be sacrificing your Sunday out at BV. Watching WTW is a luxury when juggling putting food on the table.

Of course, getting a ticket for £100 puts a much different complexion on things.

thats the feed back i got from the club shop , in fact i asked " how much extra will the tickets be if 2500 are not sold" and the reply was "we dont know yet"

And the bad feeling it would cause would be every bit as damaging. Lets hope we hit the target.

i have taken the offer , you can get a refund if you don't to pay the extra monies if the 2.5k are not sold .
this is my worry the club may announce 2.3k sales then a week later have to announce it now stands at 2.1 as 200 have taken a refund



hardly super league standard.

great idea in principle but to cap it was in hindsight pure madness .

a little like a double glazing firm having a "this weekend only" sale

I can only imagine you are being deliberately, let's say "obtuse". It is very clear - 2500 means the cost will be held at £100, less means price is £175.

It is written on the website (perhaps not clearly enough), that if it is not met, people have the choice of a refund or paying the extra £75.

Can you not grasp the confusion caused by this, if people want to take back the £100 in the morning they are legally entitled to do so, or so i've just been informed.

What are you confused by?

I have agreed to buy a ticket for £100.

That price only stands if 2499 other people do the same.

If they do, the deal I made is binding.

If they don't, I have the OPTION of having my £100 returned OR of paying an extra £75.

I can't see what the confusion is! It's simple!!

Read Sluggers post and his views on the "paid in full" and its nothing in the offer is legally binding.

I can't remember if there was "T's & C's" box to tick when I bought mine, TBH.

I imagine the deposit is what's "paid in full" - I would expect that to be the club's answer.

It will cost you a lot more than the cost of the ST to challenge this in a court! The club would, quite rightly, just give you your money back.

I don't understand why this is becoming such a drama.

If you didn't understand the deal, why did you buy into it?

I am happy with the deal dboy, its not an issue for me at all but he last two people i've spoken to seem to think they have bought season tickets and paid in full.

1 guy is at all home games and the other i see at most games, both stressed they had bought and paid for a season ticket at £100.

Now they may both be stupid i don't know but when i explained they were having none of it.

sorry to resurrect this - but I posted the following a week or so ago to make sure everyyone knew exactly what the stance was - the offer should have read something like:

Pledge £100 now - if we reach 2,500 tickets before 30/9 that's all you'll pay - if we don't then we will come basck to you for a further £75 and the price for everyone will be £175 from there on. If you don't want to pay the extra £75 we'll give you your £100 back - see how easy it would have been to make this clear? only wakefield etc

I must admit, unless the wording in the article on the website has been changed in the meantime, I can't see what the issue is here. You pay your 100 quid as a down payment "in full" to subscribe to the offer. If the target is reached, you get your season ticket for 100 quid. If not, you can either pay the extra 75 or get your money back. I'm no legal boffin, mind, so there may be some issue with the term "in full" that I'm not aware of. As a layman, though, the interpretation appears straightforward.

Don't know if its changed or not and like i've said i'm not confused

but other seem to be a bit unsure and thats why i've questioned it.

Eveb if the wordings been changed there are plenty of paper copys about.

If T's&C's are on the web site, they are elusive. They may be right at the end of the buying process...

I guess that if the target is not met, your 2 people will be asking for their money back - taking this down the "legal" route is not an option - the first solicitors letter will cost you more than the ST itself!

I would be fairly confident that both AG and the Club, know their legal position exactly. It doesn't strike me as the kind of error AG would make.

If they hadn't time limited the offer then how many do you think would have been sold so far? A lot less than we have, that's for sure.
Most people will hang on as long as possible before buying which then means the club fail to get their hands on the money when they most need it.
If we wait until January before finding how much we've got available to spend on players, who do you think we will find to sign? The club needs the money now so they can plan properly for next season, not just guess and get it wrong. The idea is to make the club more sustainable and risking money they might not get isn't the way to do that is it??

Don't know what this is all about, we [uwill[/u get 2500 takers
We aren't too far away, just one last push (sounds like overheard in the maternity suite)
Keep the faith, this time next week all this 'worry' will be irrelevant.

Further than Fordy, this the EARLY BIRD OFFER.

It's the deal you get by stumping up your cash early, for the very reasons you gave.

If certain posters want to but theirs in January, i.e. not early, they can. They will just have to pay more.

Some people seem not to grasp that.

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you are correct oh tall one