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| Quote ="Glassblower"In that case Trin have failed. Tonight's announcement have been a real tonic for Tigers fans.'"
how have we "failed" exactly? at least we will develop BV faster than WR
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Do you think you have done that tonight then ?'"
We'll have to see what July brings! By the way I meant so that the RFL would have to keep both of us in as they will not be ble to separate
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| Heres how it works Glover buys the ground tells the RFL gets a mortgage on it and tells the RFL he has the funds to do it up which he can show with the mortgage, you get a license most of the plans go on the back burner till Glover sees if Newmarket gets built then he can sell the ground and make a profit. Newmarket does not get the go ahead then it is decision time does he use the mortgage or walk away.
Or the RFL do not fall for it and you put into championship one, the plans get put on the back burner as you do not need the stadium and you wait for Newmarket, if new market does not come off again it is decision time!
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| great news people need to stop moaning and get behind the idea. We always look on the down side for once we have a bit of honesty, and we know what is going on FACT no hear say no bull just the truth makes a change does it not???????????
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| Quote ="Glassblower"In that case Trin have failed. Tonight's announcement have been a real tonic for Tigers fans.'"
I'm very happy for you.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"But its had the opposite affect.'"
My response to that is speak for yourself but you are aren't you
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| Quote ="Andrew Glover"“We said at the beginning of the year that we would do everything we possibly could to keep the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats in Super League and this is exactly what we are doing.'"
This would suggest he has been working on the plans since the start of the year, and therefore was on the application. By waiting until now to announce this, he gives our closest rivals little or no time to adapt their own plans accordingly. I'm still not confident we'll be in Super League next season, as I don't trust the RFL in the slighest and the goalposts still have time to be moved again. But by making tonights meeting so public, Andrew Glover has put greater pressure on the Rugby League, who will have a much tougher job explaining their decision should they choose not to give us a license.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Heres how it works Glover buys the ground tells the RFL gets a mortgage on it and tells the RFL he has the funds to do it up which he can show with the mortgage, you get a license most of the plans go on the back burner till Glover sees if Newmarket gets built then he can sell the ground and make a profit. Newmarket does not get the go ahead then it is decision time does he use the mortgage or walk away.
Or the RFL do not fall for it and you put into championship one, the plans get put on the back burner as you do not need the stadium and you wait for Newmarket, if new market does not come off again it is decision time!'"
How different is that to the position Cas are currently in?
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| All I want to know is.
1. Has this plan been incorporated in the Licence bid?
2 Will the building work be completed before the beginning of the 2012 season?
Looking at the statement on the website
=#0000FFWakefield Trinity Wildcats Chairman Andrew Glover commented, “We said at the beginning of the year that we would do everything we possibly could to keep the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats in Super League and this is exactly what we are doing. The biggest issue that we were faced with, within our control, was the stadium, so without wasting any time we have worked hard to ensure that we will have this new, fully developed stadium that will meet with all of the RFL’s criteria in 2012.”
That reads that it will be completed, maybe it is in the Licence bid, if so, it gives us a damn sight more chance than at any time since N.M was pulled in.
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| Quote ="TRT"We'll have to see what July brings! By the way I meant so that the RFL would have to keep both of us in [uas they will not be ble to separate[/u'"
Well mate if thats the case we are both out and Fax are in because if i am being honest i think you are a cert for the drop and any 11th hour anouncments will just drop on deaf ears with the RFL, I do not meen this as a stir but it is my honest opinion.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"But by making tonights meeting so public, Andrew Glover has put greater pressure on the Rugby League, who will have a much tougher job explaining their decision should they choose not to give us a license.'"
But, as we speak, Belle Vue is the same as it's been for years and Newmarket doesn't exist. Nothing has changed but yet more plans for the future.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"This would suggest he has been working on the plans since the start of the year, and therefore was on the application. By waiting until now to announce this, he gives our closest rivals little or no time to adapt their own plans accordingly. I'm still not confident we'll be in Super League next season, as I don't trust the RFL in the slighest and the goalposts still have time to be moved again. But by making tonights meeting so public, Andrew Glover has put greater pressure on the Rugby League, who will have a much tougher job explaining their decision should they choose not to give us a license.'"
But ok, say we get a franchise, and the RFL say on you go, sort that ground out before the new season, who the hell is going to come and do it so quickly ? Dont forget, Challenge Aneka went off our screens a long time ago and I dont think the cheaper Channel 5 version with Melinda Messenger running round B&Q flashing her t*ts off at the manager in return that he gives us a new stand for free will help either.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Well mate if thats the case we are both out and Fax are in because if i am being honest i think you are a cert for the drop and any 11th hour anouncments will just drop on deaf ears with the RFL, I do not meen this as a stir but it is my honest opinion.'"
I wouldn't disagree with your opinion that we could both be out. Your advantage is your current performance on the field. Other than that I believe we would be neck and neck
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| Quote ="charlie"Im still annoyed that they asked for more money, even though im a season ticket holder!'"
They need 5000 members to tick the box, so they need to get them in anyway they can
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| I'm very disappointed with that.
Sounds like a timeshare sales meeting.
Like the badge though.
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| Quote ="TRT"My response to that is speak for yourself but you are aren't you'"
I'm in total agreement, this could have been done at the club follwing a game, it would have put a few more quid in the coffers as well as managing not to off all the fans who didn't get in.
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"But ok, say we get a franchise, and the RFL say on you go, sort that ground out before the new season, who the hell is going to come and do it so quickly ? Dont forget, Challenge Aneka went off our screens a long time ago and I dont think the cheaper Channel 5 version with Melinda Messenger running round B&Q flashing her t*ts off at the manager in return that he gives us a new stand for free will help either.'"
DIY SOS is still going though!
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| Quote ="Walrus"I'm very disappointed with that.
Sounds like a timeshare sales meeting.
Like the badge though.'"
How so?
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| Quote ="TRT"How different is that to the position Cas are currently in?'"
Quite a bit, but if you take it you are in the same position you only have to beat them on all the other criteria and prove your club has been run on a sound basis over the last franchise period
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"But ok, say we get a franchise, and the RFL say on you go, sort that ground out before the new season, who the hell is going to come and do it so quickly ? Dont forget, Challenge Aneka went off our screens a long time ago and I dont think the cheaper Channel 5 version with Melinda Messenger running round B&Q flashing her t*ts off at the manager in return that he gives us a new stand for free will help either.'"
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| Quote ="inside man"I'm in total agreement, this could have been done at the club follwing a game, it would have put a few more quid in the coffers as well as managing not to mickey off all the fans who didn't get in.'"
So is the problem not getting in or the announcement?
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"But ok, say we get a franchise, and the RFL say on you go, sort that ground out before the new season, who the hell is going to come and do it so quickly ? Dont forget, Challenge Aneka went off our screens a long time ago and I dont think the cheaper Channel 5 version with Melinda Messenger running round B&Q flashing her t*ts off at the manager in return that he gives us a new stand for free will help either.'"
And that's when we'll find out if Glover is any different to Richardson. If they are temporary stands, as others have suggested in the past, it shouldn't be a problem having them up for February. If not, then yes, I agree. But I don't get the point of permanent stands if we are to go ahead with Newmarket.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Quite a bit, but if you take it you are in the same position you only have to beat them on all the other criteria and prove your club has been run on a sound basis over the last franchise period'"
I'm not suggesting our bid will beat Cas, it won't. But I think if this taken into consideration they would have to chuck both out or neither.
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| my understanding was always that for any new ground/redelveopment to count towards the next franchise period then it had to be finished or at an advanced stage of construction at the time the franchise bids were submitted. Neither this scheme or Cas's fulfil that criteria so dont count towards either of your franchise bids. goes down to other criteria now like youth, onfield and finance IMO.
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