indeed the game should respect that... it would be great top create a brand (in the game and in the club) that promotes and rewards loyalty!

Robbie paul praised the way we approached and handled the sammut deal in a professional manner on the SL show, which is good to hear.

also of note is the earlier comment about the bulls apparent lack of size in the pack. they seemed to fade at the end against cas, so this could be where we target them. although I would like to be a lot of points up going into the final quarter....

Jeez sometimes you can be a downer. How are we a poor side? Un-proven I'll give you and probably not the best prepared team in SL but in what way are we "poor"?

Give it a rest, I'm not rose tinted and survival remains the name of the game but some guarded optimism and support for the lads would be nice - you know you want to

the bulls faded because they coughed up the ball on tackles 1&2 a lot n the second half.

Our forwards dominated basically because it was us making all the hit up's.

If you can put your kicks in the right areas and get into their forwards you'll win this in the last quarter like we did.

Cas were in second gear and still, eventually, put 36 points on them.

A lot of ther fans said they've fitness issues but, they made 80(ish) tackles more than Cas so I don't think that's entirely true.

They're heavily reliant on Diskin making their metres with a scoot and fast play early on in the count, and their forwards building the set from there.

I don't rate Manukafoa - think for his size and pace he should win more impacts than he does. Against Cas he nearly always hit the floor on his back. I like watching him when Bradford are on but in the second half of last year realised his "impact" wasn't anywhere near as what his size and speed suggest it could be.

WTW 29-16 BB

......saw the trailer last night.

OT, what do you lads and ladies think to your away kit? It might be my Gok Wan coming out (steady, steady) but I don't like the majority of kits this year, your away one looks a bit tacky to me. I think it's cause of all the sponsors not matching the colour scheme

I hate it, my son loves it….what can you do.

not much really pal - I don't like our ugly V on our home shirt, looks like we have merged with Hull. Cashullford.

That thing Wigan wore last week too, that looked awful as well.

And Bradford's isn't great either.

Think it's just me getting old. 24 next month

I'm trying to "market" the game to pull in some Bulls fans.

First time in years i've not bought both kits, really don't like the away one at all.

As for the game, Sykes to centre to replace Keinhorst with Sammut at stand off. Briscoe on the wing, probably ahead of Lyne although Fox was just as bad on sunday. The rest as you were.

Of course you are

I think Fox is just lacking confidence.
On the plus side, he made some hard yards coming out of our 20 but, he does need to catch a few more !

Have a daughter?

I wonder at times

Is Sammut nailed on to take over kicking duties?

Our away one isn't my cup of tea and I'm not sure out of of all the colours we could have gone with, why those. Conversely I think our home shirt is one of the better ones in the Legue this year.

Just had a look at your home shirt and agree with you.

Does exactly what it says on the tin - white with blue and red V - wakey colours. Bom.

It's similar in design to our shirt, except our black V is thicker, which I would prefer to be like yours cause it looks like two shirts stuck together.

I think most clubs are sing ISC kit this year. ANd whilst the material quality is great, and training/casual gear looks really nice, it's quite a coincidence that a lot of the playing gear is ugly as sin.

Wigan's is the stand-out for me this year. They walked out against Huddersfield and I nearly spilled my pint

I woulden't mind seeing this being the 17
Mathers
Fox
Collis
Walshaw
Lyne/Briscoe
Sammut
Godinet
Smith
McShane
Raleigh
Ryan
Kirmond
Sykes

Ali
Tautai
Anderson
Wildie/Washy

Not picking on you as loads do it but why pick a team with two people in a position.
Pick the team you'd prefer to run out. We can all pick a squad.

Personally I don't like Walshaw in the centre and replacing our best tackler with someone who is not even the best tackler in the backs seems like suicide to me.

Washbrook was top tackler in the league first round with 45 tackles so cant see why he would be dropped to the bench

I may be wrong but I'm certain Centre is his natural position (as a junior) he played well there last year on one occasion.

I think we are far to quick to turn big players into forwards in this country - no reason at all in my book why Walshaw can't play in the back - not as if we are short of forwards.

I'd go with this:

Mathers
Fox
Collis
Sykes
Briscoe
Sammutt
Godinet
Smith
McShane
Anderson
Ryan
Kirmond
Washbrook

Lautiti
Tautai
Raleigh
Wilde or Walshaw

If McShane can do another 80 minutes I'd go with Walshaw but if he needs rotating then I'd go with Wilde.

I don't disagree with point about big guys still being ok in the centre and being pushed to pack too soon, I just didn't like him as much there.
I wouldn't complain if he moved there permanently.
I don't like it so much when they are switched about. I think he and Agar need to decide what he is and stick with it for a while to give him a chance.

I don't mind either way, just wasn't sure if you were aware.

I have put the option of two players depending on if they're needing a rest or not. Walshaw played centre on Sunday and played well there. I thought Washbrook offered more in attack then he did last year but I wanted to mix it up.
I was just wondering about Sykes at LF because some teams have used a halfback at loose and I dont think Sykesy defence is bad at all?

I agree.. In the highlights the inner left with Walshaw, Ryan and Lauititi looked menacing...

The trend in the modern game seems to be away from slight wingers and towards your big fellas; Richards, Monaghan, Carney, Hall etc. If you've got a precision kicker who can ping one into the corner, it's a great advantage.