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| They can disagree with it all they want for me....we have earned our return both on merit by winning every competition we have entered, including breaking a world record on the way, and have ticked every box possible to secure an A-grade for IMG. We could not have done any more !!
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Quote ="Big lads mate"There’s plenty of posters on forums that disagree with Wakey in SL , never forget where you came from is all I can say'"
Well if their clubs had 'lined their ducks up' like Carter, Minards and now Ellis have done for us then they wouldn't find themselves in the position that they are now in ??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... 0levyy2rpo
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Quote ="Big lads mate"There’s plenty of posters on forums that disagree with Wakey in SL , never forget where you came from is all I can say'"
Well if their clubs had 'lined their ducks up' like Carter, Minards and now Ellis have done for us then they wouldn't find themselves in the position that they are now in ??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... 0levyy2rpo
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| I don't know what Salford are moaning about. Had they not got away with paying no rent ( allegedly) over the last few years they might not have been in super league years ago.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"There’s plenty of posters on forums that disagree with Wakey in SL , never forget where you came from is all I can say'"
Yep like winning the league leaders shield by 13 points , winning the 1895 Cup and The Grand Final putting a new stand up that's totally changed the face of Belle Vue plus all the other things we've done to achieve Grade A status .
Yep it's proper controversial innit
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Ken’s cheque book will be feeling the heat though!'"
For a bloke who is a savvy business man, you would think he would have realised the futility of throwing money away to achieve nothing with that lot
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yciux3np7NY'"
How good is that..??
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"I don't know what Salford are moaning about. Had they not got away with paying no rent ( allegedly) over the last few years they might not have been in super league years ago.'"
Allegedly they havent paid a penny in rent since they moved in and have only made part payment on interest charges on the loan from salford council, if I was a council tax payer in that LA I would be asking some very serious questions regarding the councils purchase of the ground
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"For a bloke who is a savvy business man, you would think he would have realised the futility of throwing money away to achieve nothing with that lot'"
You certainly would
But it seems the bigger the hole gets the bigger the cheque gets that goes into it..
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"I don't know what Salford are moaning about. Had they not got away with paying no rent ( allegedly) over the last few years they might not have been in super league years ago.'"
There's no "allegedly" about it.
They STILL don't pay full rent.
Sham club.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"There’s plenty of posters on forums that disagree with Wakey in SL , never forget where you came from is all I can say'"
I haven't read many at all that disagree that we should be in SL, ateotd those that prefer P and R, we've done it that way and for those that like IMG we've done it that way as well, so can't see why anyone's moaning about us getting back into SL.
The one thing that I hear when people are moaning, is about us getting an A grade and they think we haven't done anything to earn it apart from winning the Grand Final and 1895 Cup, I also notice that the moans come from fans of SL clubs that haven't been down to Trinity since Matt took over the club and have seen what he's done. Also, they don't know that the ground we own was valued at £14 million and we've got half a million in cash in the bank, our finances are top-notch. In all areas we can improve the club, we've gone out of our way to do so, from social media to getting people through the gates and everything in between.
Hull fans moaning about their LED screens not passing IMG regulations, well we went through that. We went out and bought the LED screen that they originally required and they then changed the requirements earlier this year of the TV screen's size and pixels, but we went straight out and bought another and not whinged about it.
I get the impression that most fans think it's the same Trinity that's been in SL before and they couldn't be further from the truth. The grounds changed vastly and will continue to do so. We also have the one thing we've never had and that's a guy who can put money in to get us to where we want to be, all you have to do is look at Hull KR, Leigh and Warrington to see what having a money man behind the team can do.
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| The majority of moaners on SM throughout the day have come across as individuals who haven't the slightest clue how the IMG Rankins and points systems work, Mainly Saints and Wigan fans for some strange reason.
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| Quote ="FIL"0.01 out
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| I've been all over these rules for ages as most know but now we have a 15+ it'll be nice to just talk about rugby for a while.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The majority of moaners on SM throughout the day have come across as individuals who haven't the slightest clue how the IMG Rankins and points systems work, Mainly Saints and Wigan fans for some strange reason.'"
Did you hear Wilkins interview on Sky. Even he doesn’t know how it works or the IMG plans to expand once over 12 A’s are reached.
He completely undermined IMG on Sky and talked about the game not having money and owners being selfish and would probably vote to reduce to 10.
How short sighted, lack of preparation and knowledge and an opportunity to really sell the IMG and sport and he comes out with that. These pundits and sport just don’t do themselves any favours. He showed a complete lack of confidence in the game, clubs and new format on the program to release the IMG scores. Amateur stuff.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Did you hear Wilkins interview on Sky. Even he doesn’t know how it works or the IMG plans to expand once over 12 A’s are reached.
He completely undermined IMG on Sky and talked about the game not having money and owners being selfish and would probably vote to reduce to 10.
How short sighted, lack of preparation and knowledge and an opportunity to really sell the IMG and sport and he comes out with that. These pundits and sport just don’t do themselves any favours. He showed a complete lack of confidence in the game, clubs and new format on the program to release the IMG scores. Amateur stuff.'"
Wilkins is always moaning and bitching about something, just like he did when he played. He's completely failed to make the transition from a player focused on one club to an independently minded pundit. There's got to be better available...
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| I get Wilkins main point, that there are a few clubs that don’t project Super League like the big few, but what he doesn’t get is that none have done it without a wealthy backer. They’ve all done it through rich supporter, or another organisation, or the council helping them out with grounds. If Tesco hadn’t wanted to build a big supermarket, Saints would still be playing out of Knowsley Road, with fans using open-air toilets (although I prefer Knowsley road to the new one). Hull KR is probably the nearest club to doing it themselves, as they have built slowly, and us!
However, I understand the argument that we got Grade A based partly on winning competitions every other club would have won if they had a full-time squad and half-filled with super league players, whereas Huddersfield and others are judged against stiffer competition, but I can’t imagine any super league club preferring London to us.
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| And just so I understand, does this definitely mean that we can’t be relegated next year?
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"How ironic that the one thing that kept Huddersfield in SL for years at the expense of other teams, the John Smiths Stadium, is now becoming a millstone around their neck.'"
I was chatting to some Huddersfield fans in a pub before the Grand Final, and they were suggesting that there are moves to build a smaller ground on the old Fartown site.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I was chatting to some Huddersfield fans in a pub before the Grand Final, and they were suggesting that there are moves to build a smaller ground on the old Fartown site.'"
They’ll have to or they will rapidly find that the Mcalpine becomes their undoing and ticket out of SL.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"And just so I understand, does this definitely mean that we can’t be relegated next year?'"
Chances are next year will may drop to a B grade without the 0.35 bonus points we got this so yes we could feasibly be relegated if there are 12 clubs who score higher than us (which as it stand would be the case if there were 13 grade A clubs also. Ultimately it's the top 12 highest scoring clubs who will compete on SL each season.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Chances are next year will may drop to a B grade without the 0.35 bonus points we got this so yes we could feasibly be relegated if there are 12 clubs who score higher than us (which as it stand would be the case if there were 13 grade A clubs also. Ultimately it's the top 12 highest scoring clubs who will compete on SL each season.'"
That 0.35 purely needs to be compensated for in 2025 finishing position. I believe if we finish 9th or above we will have similar to this years so should be grade A. If we fish bottom 2/3 though it may be a high B. You may lose some performance points but you can make them up in 2025.
If we perform as Ellis expects then A should be maintained. The plan is to be around the edge of playoffs next season and possibly get in it.
Also if we improve in other areas which it seems Ellis is pushing for then we could be higher.
The other side is that I can’t see Hudds/Salford/York/Toulouse/Bulls amassing enough points to force a high B just shy of 15 out.
Salford and Hudds scores will be quite stagnant I’d expect.
Not that we should or will rest on our laurels.
Best way to describe it is that a Grade A guarantees you the following year superleague rugby. As long as it is retained that is the case. If you’re not a grade A you must be in the top 12 to retain SL status following year as you say.
We just have to do the business on the field next season and try grow other parts of the business.
Most importantly as fans we need to buy season tickets and keep interacting social media. I went through the clubs Facebook page and Twitter recently and liked a few hundred posts from the past months…. Laborious yes but I feel like I did my part.
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Glad you mentioned that Trojan as whenever I look on our Youtube site, there are currently 3,460 subscribers and usually over 1000 views per video clip but less than 100 likes
Look at this one here - 2,900 views but only 186 likes
Come on people, how hard is it to click on the like button ??....this all contributes to our IMG score for next year !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yciux3np7NY
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Glad you mentioned that Trojan as whenever I look on our Youtube site, there are currently 3,460 subscribers and usually over 1000 views per video clip but less than 100 likes
Look at this one here - 2,900 views but only 186 likes
Come on people, how hard is it to click on the like button ??....this all contributes to our IMG score for next year !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yciux3np7NY
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| Have done. Now 189
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