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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sooner the pair of them leave the better, we have a much better future without them.
Oh before I forget. This £10M + asset has not been provided by those two. Each and everyone one of us that pay our local taxes to WMDC along with all other contributors in the LA ,have contributed to deliver that.
Anyhow, bye bye MC and JM , bring on the new chapter'"
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| Ironically, weren't we in the middle of a takeover when we travelled to Catalans in 2011.
Despite all the off field goings on, we won.
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| Some of what he said in the article will be true but some of it is certainly bending the truth and he glosses over some key points.
He said he will give away his shares and then in not so many words says that he wants his directors loans back which is contradictory.
The covid loan came out of nowhere as he previously said that we didn't need and had not take one so yet again the fans have not been told the truth.
Claiming that we now have a £10 million pound asset is laughable, just because something costs circa £10 million to build does not mean it is worth that. An actual rugby stadium in itself is effectively worthless as it cannot be bought and sold like normal property such as Houses can so the main value is in the land itself and if people are claiming that to be worth £10 million then they are in cloud cuckoo land. Also if you were getting a £10 million pound asset for the cost of taken on about £4million in debt the business people would be queuing up to make a profit. I am sorry but the maths simply do not stack up.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"I don't tell lies or spread lies, I've done my bit to save our club, you can thank me and buy me a drink.if you like. My conscience is clear and my head is held high. Go find the truth PT you might not like it. Not long now till he goes then you can stop grovelling'"
Good grief!
You’ll be wanting a crowd funding page set up to raise funds for the erection of a huge statue of you with your head held high with a plaque below of how you and others fought to bring down evil tyranny at Wakefield Trinity.
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Good grief!
You’ll be wanting a crowd funding page set up to raise funds for the erection of a huge statue of you with your head held high with a plaque below of how you and others fought to bring down evil tyranny at Wakefield Trinity.'" if you would like to be my campaign manager I've got no problem with that, you can even unveil my statue too If it makes you feel happy. Lovely and sunny outside so keep smiling old boy.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"all most fans want is some HOPE, hopefully a new chapter is here shortly where the club and team make this city proud again'"
Why not give them the chance to sort it out then instead of speculating about it when [iobviously[/i you have no idea what is [iactually[/i going on?
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| Latest rumour that I am hearing is that it is nearly a done-deal
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| Quote ="FIL"Latest rumour that I am hearing is that it is nearly a done-deal
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Well that's good to hear. I wonder if he has endorsed or even dreamt up the Fifita move? Also, has the change in heart to deal with Crofty's and Shaws agent maybe driven by the fact that the current blockers are being removed?
Fingers crossed for what might be upcoming.
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| Altofts, Directors loans and shares are two different things? Not sure what is contradictory.
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| Quote ="Manuel"Altofts, Directors loans and shares are two different things? Not sure what is contradictory.'"
I am well aware they are 2 different things but saying you are giving your shares away but still wanting directors loans back in effect means that he isn't giving the club away for nothing like he is making out because in order for him to give away his shares he wants his loans paying back.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I am well aware they are 2 different things but saying you are giving your shares away but still wanting directors loans back in effect means that he isn't giving the club away for nothing like he is making out because in order for him to give away his shares he wants his loans paying back.'"
He didn't say he was giving the club away for nothing.. You are putting words in his mouth.
For a start he doesn't whole own the club so he couldn't 'give it away even if he wanted to. He isn't even majority shareholder.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He didn't say he was giving the club away for nothing.. You are putting words in his mouth.
For a start he doesn't whole own the club so he couldn't 'give it away even if he wanted to. He isn't even majority shareholder.'"
Correct he didn't but he said many a time he would sell for £1, now it seems that he wants his loans paid off aswell. I am well aware that technically paying off his loans isn't the same as buying the club but it is yet another example of him bending the truth.
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| How much are these 'loans' supposed to be?
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Correct he didn't but he said many a time he would sell for £1, now it seems that he wants his loans paid off aswell. I am well aware that technically paying off his loans isn't the same as buying the club but it is yet another example of him bending the truth.'"
1) selling for £1 always included the debts.
2) it says in the article they haven't discussed director loans yet
3) why shouldn't he want his loan paying back?
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| Loans and shares are completely different and distinct things.
He'll sell his shares for £1, but of course wants his Director's Loans back. That's why they are called loans.
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| Quote ="dboy"Loans and shares are completely different and distinct things.
He'll sell his shares for £1, but of course wants his Director's Loans back. That's why they are called loans.'"
Glover waived his directors loans.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"Glover waived his directors loans.'"
Maybe Glover could afford that and he can’t?
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| Only reason Michael Carter got involved in the first place was to keep his 'investment' from disappearing. It's no surprise he wants it back.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Only reason Michael Carter got involved in the first place was to keep his 'investment' from disappearing. It's no surprise he wants it back.'"
He may well waive it but I would want it back and I don't see why he wouldn't. If he bought 'some' shares then maybe but if he wants total control then he should take control of it all.
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| It’s very easy to tell people what they should do, what they think they have said and meant and how much loss they should make especially when it’s not your money or your business.
By the way, I do still think the management of this season has been crap.
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| I am not saying whether he should or should not get his loans back, what I am trying to say is that it is just another example of him bending the truth to make himself look good.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I am not saying whether he should or should not get his loans back, what I am trying to say is that it is just another example of him bending the truth to make himself look good.'"
Surely so are a lot of the people criticising him.
For some reason not giving every personal or financial detail is lying.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Surely so are a lot of the people criticising him.
For some reason not giving every personal or financial detail is lying.'"
I didn't say that he lied regarding this, he just hasn't been exactly straight with the truth.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Surely so are a lot of the people criticising him.
For some reason not giving every personal or financial detail is lying.'"
The way some posters are looking for dishonesty where there's zero evidence of any, is frankly disgusting and they should grow up
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I didn't say that he lied regarding this, he just hasn't been exactly straight with the truth.'"
There is no truth to be straight with.
He says they haven't discussed the director loans yet.
So he can't answer those questions.
I think it's fair to discuss these things with the guy potentially buying and the lawyers before Gaz from Facebook.
This all started because someone put on Facebook that he was standing in the way of the deal because he wants £200k a year for the stadium rent.....which is clearly not true. Those people have then twisted every bit of info they can to make something of it......just for personal reasons.
You won't see them when details come out to contradict their claims. They just move on to the next one.
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