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| Quote ="Richard1"I bet you are not.'"
Then you would be correct then as i am not......go to the top of Sandal Wildcats Class
Why the hell do you all assume that normal residents of Wakefield would want this so that anyone who doesn't must have some affiliation to some organisation or connection with other clubs.
Get used to the fact that normal everyday people in Wakefield Don't want this blight on our land.....SIMPLE
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"communities.gov.uk/documents/planning-callins/pdf/197182.pdf
Have a look at this as a test case if you will.
THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (GREEN BELT) DIRECTION 2005
PLANNING APPLICATION BY NIELS LARSEN LTD FOR THE ERECTION OF REPLACEMENT WAREHOUSE AND STORE AND 2.4M HIGH BOUNDARY FENCING AND RELOCATION OF ACCESS AT UNIT 3, SPA STREET, OSSETT
PLANNING APPLICATION NUMBER: 06/9946013F
This was an application to build a replacement warehouse on greenbelt land in Ossett.
It's dated 2006 but there have been no major changes to legislation/responsibilities of the SoS that rule against us- more to the contrary in recent months with the "cutting red tape/giving power back" spouted at every opportunity by the current gov.
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[iAs you may know, the Secretary of State's general approach is not to interfere with the jurisdiction of local planning authorities unless it is necessary to do so. Parliament has entrusted them with responsibility for day-to-day planning control in their areas. Local planning authorities are normally best placed to make decisions relating to their areas and it is right that, in general, they should be free to carry out their duties responsibly, with the minimum of interference.[/i
para 3
[iThere will be occasions, however, when the Secretary of State may consider it necessary to call in a planning application to determine herself instead of leaving it to the local planning authority. Her policy is to be very selective about calling in planning applications. She will, in general, only take this step if planning issues of more than local importance are involved and if those issues need to be decided by the Secretary of State rather than at a local level.[/i
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[iHaving carefully considered the relevant planning issues raised by this proposal, the Secretary of State has concluded that her intervention would not be justified. The application does not, in the Secretary of State’s view, raise issues of more than local significance, which would require a decision by her. The decision as to whether to grant planning permission will therefore remain with the Council.[/i
TBF even Labour knew that too much state involvement in planning is bad for business...
As I have said previously there have been no changes to legislation or responsibility from the SoS- and I don't see any matters of national significance to this application.'"
Hardly 200 acres is it mate
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| No but is 200 acres of [u=#0040FF[size=200national significance[/size[/u?
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| Like I expected; you'd read the doc but miss my point of reference.
Just out of interest; how many GCSE's did you get (D-U don't count btw)
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| Can I drive the bulldozer?
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"communities.gov.uk/documents/planning-callins/pdf/197182.pdf
Have a look at this as a test case if you will.
THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (GREEN BELT) DIRECTION 2005
PLANNING APPLICATION BY NIELS LARSEN LTD FOR THE ERECTION OF REPLACEMENT WAREHOUSE AND STORE AND 2.4M HIGH BOUNDARY FENCING AND RELOCATION OF ACCESS AT UNIT 3, SPA STREET, OSSETT
PLANNING APPLICATION NUMBER: 06/9946013F
This was an application to build a replacement warehouse on greenbelt land in Ossett.
It's dated 2006 but there have been no major changes to legislation/responsibilities of the SoS that rule against us- more to the contrary in recent months with the "cutting red tape/giving power back" spouted at every opportunity by the current gov.
para 2
[iAs you may know, the Secretary of State's general approach is not to interfere with the jurisdiction of local planning authorities unless it is necessary to do so. Parliament has entrusted them with responsibility for day-to-day planning control in their areas. Local planning authorities are normally best placed to make decisions relating to their areas and it is right that, in general, they should be free to carry out their duties responsibly, with the minimum of interference.[/i
para 3
[iThere will be occasions, however, when the Secretary of State may consider it necessary to call in a planning application to determine herself instead of leaving it to the local planning authority. Her policy is to be very selective about calling in planning applications. She will, in general, only take this step if planning issues of more than local importance are involved and if those issues need to be decided by the Secretary of State rather than at a local level.[/i
para 4
[iHaving carefully considered the relevant planning issues raised by this proposal, the Secretary of State has concluded that her intervention would not be justified. The application does not, in the Secretary of State’s view, raise issues of more than local significance, which would require a decision by her. The decision as to whether to grant planning permission will therefore remain with the Council.[/i
TBF even Labour knew that too much state involvement in planning is bad for business...
As I have said previously there have been no changes to legislation or responsibility from the SoS- and I don't see any matters of national significance to this application.
=#FF4000So can anyone really see any issues of national significance?'"
When it states "more than of local significance" it doesn't mean that this refers to National significance, this is your assumption, it can mean a development that affects bordering villages, towns or cities and in this case it plainly does affect Leeds and it also has the effect of joining areas together which are seperated by a certain amount of green belt land (this in itself is part of government legislation) and this is the major concern of Leeds Council and WILL be the major concern of the SOS.
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"No, i am not a Castleford fan or Featherstone rovers etc, i am a football fan more than rugby, but i am sick of you lot painting anybody who disagrees with what you think or want as some kind of loony or nimby, maybe i just think there is enough unwanted and unused industrial units around this area rather than building any more that no bugger wants or needs, just so York court can make a big fat profit and Wakefield get a Trojan horse stadium, cynically brought into the equation to sweeten this very bitter pill!'"
Just looking at your sig!!
You have either spelled it wrong(ou missing !!) or
Could you be a brighton fan,re new ground.
How ironic would that be!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"No, i am not a Castleford fan or Featherstone rovers etc, i am a football fan more than rugby, but i am sick of you lot painting anybody who disagrees with what you think or want as some kind of loony or nimby, maybe i just think there is enough unwanted and unused industrial units around this area rather than building any more that no bugger wants or needs, just so York court can make a big fat profit and Wakefield get a Trojan horse stadium, cynically brought into the equation to sweeten this very bitter pill!'"
A football fan more than rugby who knows all the ins and outs of a Cas fringe prop who may or may not ever have been linked with a move to Trinity?
I think Foulmouth is a serial pork pie teller.
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| I think this has to rank as my best ever thread! It was probably quite boring to start with but now... wow... what a first class thread!
And TRB's on holiday and missing it!
Keep Falmouth2010/Outwood Tiger I say, he/she/it is highly entertaining!
More, more, more...
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Why is the troll still being fed then and not banned so the issues can be discussed sensibly?'"
Good question. Why do people constantly rise to the bait?
The poster now knows what is and isn't acceptable, or at least, he should do.
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| This is not a freak show, or at least it wasn't until outwoodfalmouthbrighton tiger turned up.
Please show some decorum!!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think this has to rank as my best ever thread! It was probably quite boring to start with but now... wow... what a first class thread!
And TRB's on holiday and missing it!
Keep Falmouth2010/Outwood Tiger I say, he/she/it is highly entertaining!
More, more, more...'"
Yes, that evening in, sifting through the stats has really paid off, hasn't it? Thanks.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Yes, that evening in, sifting through the stats has really paid off, hasn't it? Thanks.'"
My pleasure and it was not really a full evening... just 30 minutes or so while watching a bit of TV before bed.
I am thinking that when I get really bored I can put all the data into Excel and post some nice looking graphs and pie charts!
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| Hmmm pie charts!!!!
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| I still do not know what this tool's legal objection to the development is.
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| Its a shame i missed this TRB guy, having read a lot of his posts, now he really is a first class idiot.
All the hope he's given you ...... and for what???
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| It looks like Leeds City Council wrote to Wakefield prior to the planning meeting of the 22nd October -
[urlhttp://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4507975&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf[/url
They were all so scared by Leeds threat to strongly object to the SoS they decided to vote it through unanimously anyway!
My favourite bit is this -
Quote The report progresses to set out that your Core Strategy
identifies that there is an existing substantial supply of employment land that it is likely to
satisfy your authorities needs up until 2021 (paragraph 8.7) and that there is also a
significant supply of employment land within the Leeds district that is available now or in the
short term (paragraphs 8.15 and 8.16). In these circumstances it seems difficult to justify the
release of large areas of Green Belt land.'"
Well central government disagreed with Wakefield's draft core strategy and they have been given a legal requirement to find 95ha on the M62 corridor! I bet you would love to get Yorkcourt to build in Leeds instead of Wakefield wouldn't you, rubbing your hands with the prospect of those juicy business rates and been lectured by Leeds for building on green-belt, one of the worst authorities in England for doing just that to Wakefield, one of the best in England. This is the authority that told Sheffield to keep it's nose out of it's business over the Leeds Arena development as well. Hypocritical does not go far enough!
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| Quote ="1948er"I still do not know what this tool's legal objection to the development is.'"
Why do i need a legal objection to it personally? the legals will be argued about by the SOS in due course but my involvement is the same as yours purely emotional...... i like otters!!
You lot (and York court properties) are not legally obliged to drive a coach and horses through green belt laws and have a stadium and industrial estate built that nobody wants or needs (except for 500 die hard fans), you have no legal right to a stadium.
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Its a shame i missed this TRB guy, having read a lot of his posts, now he really is a first class idiot.
All the hope he's given you ...... and for what???'"
He's gone on holiday, he is not dead (well I hope not anyway!). Are you not planning on sticking around to lecture him as well... he will be gutted!
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"...... i like otters!!
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I do too... but I struggle to eat a whole one on my own!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"He's gone on holiday, he is not dead (well I hope not anyway!). Are you not planning on sticking around to lecture him as well... he will be gutted!'"
Of course, i would love to speak with him too, he's a legend to you lot aint he...lol!!
All depends on wether your gate keepers boot me off, they are already warning me for not being in total agreement with you all......Priceless!!!
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Of course, i would love to speak with him too, he's a legend to you lot aint he...lol!!
All depends on wether your gate keepers boot me off, they are already warning me for not being in total agreement with you all......Priceless!!!
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I suspect the warning was more likely for calling SWC a 'nonce', although in your own inimitably ironic style, you mispelled it; equally priceless!!!! lolz etc etc
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| Quote ="falmouth2010"Of course, i would love to speak with him too, he's a legend to you lot aint he...lol!!
All depends on wether your gate keepers boot me off, they are already warning me for not being in total agreement with you all......Priceless!!!
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I don't know, you try and give people a chance and how do they repay you?
I had more rope saved for you, but you just didn't need it. Clever boy.
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