Im not jealous why should I be after all its not your stadium anyway, its the communities stadium and featherstone have been asked if they would like to be joint tenants anyway. We have declined so how can we be jealous.

All this started because I stated my belief that their was little point in letters to the Wakefield Express and that their were other issues that would be more pertinent. If fans of your club put as much effort into canvassing for new supporters as it they have canvassing other people to build as stadium FOR your use, your club would be much more healthy for it, and may even be able to finance your own stadium. And I know you have more supporters than us the point being where not asking other people to sort out our mess.

I have a question for you, why have your club not invested the money they received from the sale of your present ground into a new stadium? It seems to me that all along your club and supporters have expected someone else to make it happen for you, while you have a go at the likes of Cas who have invested heavily into making their stadium happen THEMSELVES.

Cas aren’t funding the stadium for themselves, they need outside investment, like Trinity, otherwise it would’ve been built already. =#FF0000Part of the sale of BV is going towards the new stadium. So one could say both clubs have invested heavily into making their stadiums happen.

Rugbyball. All forums feature posters who take extreme views and are very prejudicial attitudes regarding the activities of their own and other clubs. Our board is no different. I think however that your propensity to talk about our club and our fans as being a hermogenous group with identical values and attitudes is unjustified and, on the Wakefield forum, not in the best spirit of dialogue (sure I know others have done it from a Wakefield perspective too and whilst this doesn't make this right at least they are doing it on their own forum).

I don't know if you are in posession of all the facts, or if you have ever worked in a role as a community activit tring to influence local authorities.
Taking on such a role, as activists at SWAG have done, is somewhat like committing to negotiating with the wind about how the sand should be blown about. You have very few cards in your hand to play, you often only get access to the monkey firing the organ grinders bullets and you are subject to the vagaries of decision makers who are in position because they have won popularity contests rather than because they have the capacity to act strategically in the best interests of the community.

The worse part of this, in my experience, is having to play politics with adversaries for whom polotics is their day job. This often involves them spreading information which doesn't always have a robust evidence base. Once such information gets into local media it takes a herculean effort to change public perception.

Consequently I think the activists at SWAG are perfectly entitled to defend their position and encourage those who so wish to write to the local rag singing the praises of the proposed communit stadium. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone with the best interests of RL at heart would seek to discourage them from doing so.

That might be so!

I know they do - they then sometimes 'randomly' ring me up and ask me what's the latest. I have made them aware that we have not been happy with their coverage and they can take or leave that as they seem fit. They have a job to do and I will respect that.

Yes - but no harm done in these situations.

I will reserve the right to protect what I hold dear. I do know what we have achieved to get this far and I hope that, this time, we will cross the finish line!



Thank you for the concern!

I totally agree.

=#FF0000are we putting up some cash, but going to pay a reduced rent for a period of time?? I think I heard!!!!

Not sure, but it makes sense not to overprice the rent, something the LSV has suffered from with Leigh Genesis.

And in all fairness, we should pay less if we have contributed initially. It would be unfair to charge all tennants the same if they have not given the same level of financial support to the development.

I would've thought there will be some sort of scale, professional teams will obviously pay more then semi-pro, but a fine balance has to be struck in keep the facility financially viable and ensuring sports team are not priced out of operating from there.

Hi Chris (yes I reckon it's you), still up to your old tricks

no it isn't ours it will be the communities which makes it more better for usage of all sports within the Wakefield district, my point is your coming over very negative to such brilliant project,

I come from a mining background and lived on the doors step of Nostell colliery many years ago, my old mine was converted in to park land and many other mines have also been developed into natural habitat for wild life, take Pugneys for instance was an open cast mine,

what the Newmarket project delivers is easy access for whether it being business or pleasure at minimal disturbance by far, as the country grows in population and modernisation progress has to happen in some areas and I too have had large developments within 2 mins walk from my house life goes on

I was at a function last night and got talking to some people on our table who signed the petition for the stadium. They are now very angry as they say they were conned. They live in Methley/near Methley ? and said a campaign is being organised against the industrial part of the development. They said there is local newsletter "the Methley messenger" which is spearheading the campaign. They added that some people were against the stadium, but the majority were against the industrial units etc. and were worried that this would have a negative effect on the value of their property.

Did the large industrial estate at J31 have a negative effect on their property? Still would've thought it was far enough away to be pretty much unaffected. It's not as if wagons will be allowed to pass through. In fact the only way to the development is from Aberford Road.

The fact that the wagons will only have an access from Aberford should be highlighted. There main concern was the proximity of developments to their properties and the fact that when they signed the petition for the stadium they were not made aware of the rest of the development. No doubt some residents will be mischief making and stirring up others with false scaremongering. it would be interesting to read what is written in the Methley messenger.
These groups have to be taken on board and approached, to help allay their fears before they get chance to grow and cause problems.

there is only one area to my knowledge where a prospectus land buyer that has had problems in developing the land this time for housing and that is the bottom of school lane in walton, they would of had to demolish the old building with historical value, at sometime there will be developments to the land at Newmarket as it it an ideal situation for it,

you only have to look at the old mines that have closed to see that not all are turned into industrial units or shopping malls and are allowed to return to natural habitat

cas have no money !! they have invested nothing and tried to finance..in the words of the person from a well known spanish bank who they tried to borrow money from..."the figures do not add up, it took 10 minutes to decline!" and it was nothing to do with the housing development ! that wasn't mentioned in the proposal...just the little bit next door! GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT!

cas have no money !! they have invested nothing and tried to finance..in the words of the person from a well known spanish bank who they tried to borrow money from..."the figures do not add up, it took 10 minutes to decline!" and it was nothing to do with the housing development ! that wasn't mentioned in the proposal...just the little bit next door! GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT!

do you have a link to back up your ''facts''
the banker sounds like a true professional if he discusses clients with anyone willy nilly.

the good thing to come out of this is we (cas) get to stay where we are and stick 2 fingers up to the rfl.
if they dont want us then we will survive in the national leagues and not put the club at risk of bankruptcy each time soopa doopa league move the goalposts in their hopeless quest for expansion.
hope you get your stadium, but after that where does the money come from to pay for the rest of s/l's future demands.
time to wake up . super league dont want wakey or cas they want calder and the merger will be back on as soon as they feel they can force it

god help rugby league

I agree darntlane thats what the rfl/superleague want a merged team so they can accomodate anther french club or a team in scotland. The game will never grow like they want it to and these new franchises will only be in existence for a short period of time. Id rather we kept our own identities and fight our corners.

As l have said on the Cas forum, l live in Methley and have not heard a peep re the potential Newmarket development. Which is unusual, last year there was a concerted local area protest against a planned new development in Lower Mickeltown, which resulted (at least in some part) to planning permission being turned down!

l don’t see how the development would affect Methley, it is far enough away to not impact on traffic, noise or house price worries.

More then likely it will have been some of the anti stadium group scaremongering the locals with regards to increased HGV traffic loads. Not withstanding the permissions the wagons will face, but physically a Juggernaut would find navigating Newmarket Lane beyond the perimeter of the site pretty much impossible such it the tightness of the roads.

I work with a few people from methley and there is definitely some strength to the stories that some who have filled in pertitians on our behalf feel somewhat misled about the rest of the development.
We after all are only interested in the ground and as far as I am aware are only pertititioning for such, so I can see there point to some level.
However there is also talk of a massive jctn 32 style retail outlet and various other scare stories also being mixed in causing quite a lot of I'll feeling towards us and the development as a whole.
Scare stories can cause them as much agro as us, so they need to be careful, however we may have caused ourselves trouble by the way we have canvassed our support very publicly on our one point, without raising the rest of the development as part of that process, to remain transparent.
As for the speeking to opposing groups I have previously stated the need for dialogue with all parties with any concern. Good pr for us.

I believe YorkCourt are in constant dialogue with the residents directly affected.

SWAG’s mission is to campaign for a new stadium, which they have done. The rest of the development is not part of SWAG’s remit, although it is integral to the stadium becoming a reality. However, the SWAG petition directly quotes, ‘the Sports Facilities will form part of an overall strategy for the Newmarket site and cannot happen in isolation to the other functions proposed for the site.‘

One would take from that a development in an area close to the motorway and out of town would entail some sort of industrial units & business park.

Why is this even debated on here... the vast majority of wakey fans are blinkered to any debate and the residents are the opposite.

One inbred on here even called me scum cos I tried debating.

So why bother then? Troll.