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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"How do you define worse ?'"
The opposite of the answer I gave you when you asked me to define better
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| At this point it only seems the relegated team is coming out of wakey ,Safford and leigh - slaford has enough to stay up so i think its between 2 we need a win and soon
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| Watched Leigh did ok for first part but Wigan started slow. Second half belong to Wigan who never got out of first gear. Seems like Leigh are still struggling to be fit enough to play beyond half time a bit like us.
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| Quote ="supercat"Watched Leigh did ok for first part but Wigan started slow. Second half belong to Wigan who never got out of first gear. Seems like Leigh are still struggling to be fit enough to play beyond half time a bit like us.'"
Should be an absorbing second half when we play them then!
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| It's increasingly looking like our games V Leigh are relegation deciders.
How gloomy, relying on 1 team to be worse than ourselves to stay in SL.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Seems counter productive replace him with someone worse though surely?'"
I’m beginning to think you’re just a troll!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"How do you define worse ?'"
Some one who will win 7 games out of 48
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| Quote ="alegend"Some one who will win 7 games out of 48'"
which 48 games are these?
Last 48 games (all) won12/48
Last 48 games (SL opposition) won 11/48
League games back to start of 2019 - won 16/54
It's bad, but don't make it out to be worse than it actually is.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"which 48 games are these?
Last 48 games (all) won12/48
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It's bad, but don't make it out to be worse than it actually is.'"
Regardless of any quantitative statistic, we are likely in another relegation battle..... again
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Regardless of any quantitative statistic, we are likely in another relegation battle..... again
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I think we are all aware of that now.
What the stats were pointing out is that not every replacement is better.
If we are to replace Chester, it needs to be a good replacement, otherwise (IMO) we are better fighting it out with what we have.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"which 48 games are these?
Last 48 games (all) won12/48
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League games back to start of 2019 - won 16/54
It's bad, but don't make it out to be worse than it actually is.'"
Love how you like to add the outstanding win v poor bradford side or that 11 winsin 48 is good
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| Quote ="Wildthing"It's increasingly looking like our games V Leigh are relegation deciders.
How gloomy, relying on 1 team to be worse than ourselves to stay in SL.'"
A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think we are all aware of that now.
What the stats were pointing out is that not every replacement is better.
If we are to replace Chester, it needs to be a good replacement, otherwise (IMO) we are better fighting it out with what we have.'"
Just as a matter of intrest you say bringing in a replacement wouldnt nessaceeraly be better but how could it be worse.credit to you for sticking by the man you love just hope he pulls us out of this .
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up
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Are we?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"
Again, I'm not sticking with him. I am simply pointing out that he has been good for us in the past, he has suffered a lot of damage to his team plans outside his control and the team seem bonded to try and improve, which they are doing, albeit slowly.
Just putting a less capable coach in place will make things worse.
Agar and Webster being a great example.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Are we?'"
Yes, taking the positive view, rather than the negative one.
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| Quote ="djcool"Anyone notice that after his 1st try Gaskell had a Wakefield badge by his name?'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"
Agar got us to the play offs in his first season and Webster won 5 and drew 1 of his first 7 games to steer us away from a relegation battle. New coach syndrome more often than not has an effect and i’d take that bounce now. A fresh perspective counts for a lot.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"A more positive view would be, we are better than one team to stay up
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Indeed, but I am really struggling to be positive at this time.
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I think you misunderstood.
I was saying Agar was a good coach hounded out and replaced with Webster. It got a boost but he hardly won any more after that burst. So we were back where we started when we replaced him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
Right I get you. But the point remains that the boost saved us from a highly likely relegation battle. I said on here prior to the Leeds game we need to be winning 3 of the next 4 if we want to breathe relatively easy this year, two ad an absolute bare minimum as ling as one is Leigh. If these next 3 games don’t go well then i don’t see us having any option but to make a change, even if that change is one of Poching or Last taking it until the end of the season.
Either way though in my opinion it is time for a change next season. We need new ideas and a fresh outlook. The succession planning should start now whether Chester gets to play out the season or not. 6 seasons is a long time for a coach. A change will do everyone good.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think we are all aware of that now.
What the stats were pointing out is that not every replacement is better.
If we are to replace Chester, it needs to be a good replacement, otherwise (IMO) we are better fighting it out with what we have.'"
What the stats point out to me is that we never build off good seasons and just end up back down the bottom tussling it out for survival for one reason or another. There has never been any consistency with our club has there. It’s very frustrating for all our fans id imagine. If we are looking more likely that we will be battling it out with who ever for relegation then the club will simply have to be seen to do something to avoid that.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"What the stats point out to me is that we never build off good seasons and just end up back down the bottom tussling it out for survival for one reason or another. There has never been any consistency with our club has there. It’s very frustrating for all our fans id imagine. If we are looking more likely that we will be battling it out with who ever for relegation then the club will simply have to be seen to do something to avoid that.'"
I agree.
I think that comes down to investment.
Peaks of success are difficult to turn into sustained success.
I think it was Webster or maybe Agar that said with the team we are able to field, we have to be at our best to win. Other teams can play at 60% and still do it. We can't.
So sustaining that is really difficult. Unless you can improve the overall quality of the team. (and keep them on the pitch)
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree.
I think that comes down to investment.
Peaks of success are difficult to turn into sustained success.
I think it was Webster or maybe Agar that said with the team we are able to field, we have to be at our best to win. Other teams can play at 60% and still do it. We can't.
So sustaining that is really difficult. Unless you can improve the overall quality of the team. (and keep them on the pitch)'"
Yes absolutely, MC has made it no secret how much we spend on players and where we are up to the salary cap, with a lot of teams spending around £1 million more than us ie marquee Players, home ground player exemptions... etc. Investment is clearly key, but you only have to walk around Wakefield centre to realise it’s Probably not coming any time soon in my opinion. Who are the financial backers of Castleford. Been a very good consistent team for a number of years now, hailing from a small town.
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| Jack Fulton was the Cas chairman until his death a couple of years ago, I believe and I think it's his son now ??
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