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| Quote ="wildcatowl"Well said Al. I have come to take vastmans comments with a pinch of salt as "he's always right". I think vastman is short for vastlty-superior-to-anyone-else-man.'"
Really, I've come to the conclusions that player groupies like you are never more happy than when you think you can take the high ground. Usually against folk who are a little more realistic about life and a little less sycophantic. So I express an opinion and it's me thinking I'm always right, yet when you do it as above I assume that isn't the case. This is I assume still a forum on which to express opinion?
So you are conceited and a hypocrite, nice one.
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Cheers Korki!! But time to move on, I think he offers little going forward, and fresh players are the requirement.
Another on his way seems to be Semi, according to GPFC;
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=511979
Both good servants to the club, but as we embark on a new chapter it's time to move on.
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Cheers Korki!! But time to move on, I think he offers little going forward, and fresh players are the requirement.
Another on his way seems to be Semi, according to GPFC;
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=511979
Both good servants to the club, but as we embark on a new chapter it's time to move on.
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| Quote ="vastman"Can't say I agree with that. [uThere have been players at the club whom IMHO have not deserved any thanks at all. [/uI've said it before and I'll say it again, not all players are part of this mythical warrior class that some portray, as in real life some are just rotten. In my case I will reserve my right to praise players how I see fit and so long as I'm polite so what. The club is free to do as it sees fit and take their chances.
Now clearly Korki isn't one of those rotten ones and I would have assumed any player with 100 plus games would get a thank you from the club and I'm sure he will.
So why did the original poster feel the need to make such a fuss over a none event. Yes I get your point it isn't that difficult but could it not just be a plain over site not some more sinister event, these things happen. Nobody has a white hat or a black hat, they are all shades of grey.
So best of luck to the bloke, but a big thank you - not from me - not on this occasion. Others wishing to do so are free to, I'm not stopping them - why all of a sudden do we have to all sing the praises of every player who moves on. This is the same forum that for years has seen certain posters use threads to launch vicious attacks on player some still at the club - now you're wrong because you don't feel the need to gush thanks to Korki - frankly I'm baffled.
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Thats fine but you are not the only Trin fan and others see players in a different light, my point stand that RESPECT and DECENCY cost nothing.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Do you actually watch rugby or just go for the pies and look distantly in sky as the games on? Because frankly I don't believe you know Jack Smith about RL and more specifically WTW.
Dowes is easily a better prop that MK & I've been a big fan of his over the years. Nobody can question his devotion or contribution over the past decade, but move on. ED at this moment is far more capable. If players never depreciated in ability with aged (with the exception of Steve Menzies) Mal Maninga would still be in the green and gold!
If stuck up for your before NGBFC but that really irritated me for some reason??'"
Ewan dowes is not a good prop. You cant criticise what korki has done for the trin he gives his all every match. Hes done a good job for us.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Do you actually watch rugby or just go for the pies and look distantly in sky as the games on? Because frankly I don't believe you know Jack Smith about RL and more specifically WTW.
Dowes is easily a better prop that MK & I've been a big fan of his over the years. Nobody can question his devotion or contribution over the past decade, but move on. ED at this moment is far more capable. If players never depreciated in ability with aged (with the exception of Steve Menzies) Mal Maninga would still be in the green and gold!
If stuck up for your before NGBFC but that really irritated me for some reason??'"
Ewan dowes is not a good prop. You cant criticise what korki has done for the trin he gives his all every match. Hes done a good job for us.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"First of all the club should thanks ALL players that move on out of common decency, players who have all served our club.
And in this case Korki is part of the fittings at BV and as been for a long time, the people at this club should remember that goodwill and treating players with respect go around in our game and future players may not be recommened in future. You may know that some players we've signed in the past would never have come if not the "words" of former players.
How hard is it to write a thank you and post it on the website and [uwhat possible harm can it do.[/u'"
I agree with most of this post but I dont agree thanking players who took us for a ride like Hickey. As for Korki hes gave his all for the mighty Trin sad to see him go but I do understand the reasoning. He is part of the furniture and I shall miss him love his lung busting drives when you get behind him.
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| His career would have been so much better if someone had taught him how to offload.
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| Quote ="vastman"Really, I've come to the conclusions that player groupies like you are never more happy than when you think you can take the high ground. Usually against folk who are a little more realistic about life and a little less sycophantic. So I express an opinion and it's me thinking I'm always right, yet when you do it as above I assume that isn't the case. This is I assume still a forum on which to express opinion?
[url[uSo you are conceited and a hypocrite, nice one[/u[/url.'"
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"His career would have been so much better if someone had taught him how to offload.'"
He had/has plenty of flaws to his game but then I guess that is why he played for us for so long. I never really got the Korki thing the run at Hull was quality and he chinned that Fev player but other than that I can't remember singing his praises to often. He was/is a steady enough player but if we are to move on then we need better. Cheers for the effort though.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Ewan dowes is not a good prop. You cant criticise what korki has done for the trin he gives his all every match. Hes done a good job for us.'"
Dowes is a better all round prop than Korkidas, different style yes but has a more consistant game. You don't play the majority of games for a team that makes the top eight and not be a good player.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Ewan dowes is not a good prop. You cant criticise what korki has done for the trin he gives his all every match. Hes done a good job for us.'"
He's better than the one we've signed and so is his attitude imho.
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| Good luck to the lad - a grafter who's always put the effort in, even if the effort didn't necessaily yield the desired result.
Bit of a weird one though in terms of his contract, as he's actually a Shudds player, so we haven't released him in the traditional sense; his loan period has expired and his home club have chosen not to re-sign him.
Sure he'll do well at Keighley - some of these part time lads are going to have their commitment tested next season, when they find themselves standing in front of a rampaging Nick Fozzard or Michael Korkidas.
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| All the best at Keighley Korki, am sure you will be great for them. Thanks for your times at Wakey, know you love our club . Korki is a great guy off the pitch too and will never forget him thanking me at end of the million pound game too. All the best on and off the pitch Michael & Terri as you begin a new chapter in your lives
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| Quote ="feline"All the best at Keighley Korki, am sure you will be great for them. Thanks for your times at Wakey, know you love our club . Korki is a great guy off the pitch too and will never forget him thanking me at end of the million pound game too. All the best on and off the pitch Michael & Terri as you begin a new chapter in your lives
'" I like Korki, a flawed character who gives his all. All the best Mick!
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"I like Korki, a flawed character who gives his all. All the best Mick!'"
I probably shouldn't ask this but... in what way is his character flawed?
I've listed to a few radio interviews with the guy, and have heard things about him from people who know him, and he comes across as a decent bloke to me.
I'll echo your final sentiment, though. All the best Mick (and thanks)!
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| Cheers Korki.
In the early part of last year i think without Korki & Morro, we wouldnt have got close to winning a game. You looked at the 2 sides when warming up and without them our pack could have come straight out of the academy in terms of physicality. If you speak to PJ, Frankie, Howarth, Amor etc they will all have nothing but good things to say about Korki. No, i dont think he should have been given a new contract and during his time with us he has been up and down with regards to level of performance, but i dont think he could ever be accused of lacking in effort.
I just dont get some folk?? Anyone who has pulled on the shirt, especially last year (barring Hickey) and put his body on the line partly for my entertainment deserves a thanks. It doesnt mean i hero worship them, it doesnt in all cases mean that i rate them as a player but it does mean i appreciate there efforts.
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| All this criticism could be premature - it's Monday morning, what's to say the club won't release something this week about Korki's departure?
Sometimes, the rumour mill overtakes the official news - with 3 clubs, an agent and a player involved, I guess it's not as straightforward as it seems; when they've sorted all that out, I'm sure there'll be some acknowledgement of his contribution.
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| Agreed Bren
Im sure the players contracts run until either the 1st or 30th November. Id expect to read the thanks for all your efforts posts from the club at that time. As it stands, they will still be contracted and the club will still be paying them.
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| Σας ευχαριστούμε Mick για το πάθος που έδειξε, φορώντας την τύχη shirt.Good, ο Θεός να είναι μαζί σας.
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| Job done.
[urlhttp://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/korkidas-says-farewell-to-fans/2011/10/[/url
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| Thing on the website about it now for those who care.
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| I've posted this before but will repeat for this thread.
Korki has been great for Wakefield. I have never felt he has given less than 100%, whether his performances have been what people expected. Some people have been irritated by the elbows and knees myth but for me he has always done the hard work when needed and if other teams have ever dominated him it is simply because they targeted him as the only forward who needed to be focussed on.
Thanks for the memories Korki. Hope you and JD are successful and certainly happy in your new venture.
I know there will be a lot more bruised bodies in that division next year.
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| good luck korki and thanks for the sock
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Thats fine but you are not the only Trin fan and others see players in a different light, my point stand that RESPECT and DECENCY cost nothing.'"
When exactly did I say I was?
I simply expressed my opinion. This is the second time I have been unfairly treated IMO for expressing an opinion that seems to go against that of what I can only describe as a click of fans who have their favourite and thus untouchable players. At no point have I name called or in any way abused these players, no silly name calling like Blaydire!
I accept the need to be civil about players, with the exception of Hickey I have rarely picked on an individual player. However despite the fact that posters like wildowl like to make it personal I can't see how a considered opinion is either lacking respect or decency.
It's very simple, I don't and never have rated Korki. He's had his moments, especially when he first rejoined us but over all IMHO he is one of those Australians who has had a great career based on little more talent than many English players who didn't even get the chance. I'm sure he is a lovely man but that's not what SL is about and it never was. This being the case I'm willing to wish him all the best but I will reserve the right not to thank him.
The club can do as they wish.
None of what I'm about to say is aimed at you or anyone in particular on here apart from one who knows who he is..
If the above makes me a bad person so be it. In the last few weeks nay years I've been accused of amongst other things ripping the club off, using it as a tax dodge, being in SWAG to make me feel more important and get into games for free and much more, oh and being physically threatened at a match in 2008 - so maybe I am.
One thing is for certain no one has ever said thanks to me not that I ever expected it, why should I - I admit I talk my mind to much for that. That said I will never ever expected the recent abuse I have endured. Due to this I will never offer my help which in monetary terms and time has been considerable in the past to any of the supporters groups ever again. It's not the clubs fault or by and large the fault of those who run the various groups, it's simply the fact that you eventually get sick of being judged and abused by people who think that turning up at the occasional meeting and sinking 6 pints and being chummy with the odd player gives them the right to have a go. There cannot be a set of fans in the world more adept at isolating and discouraging those offering real support.
So maybe I'm being a little bit precious and self pitying as I'm sure some will point out and a wee bit harsh on Korki but I'm really not in a thankful frame of mind. At the moment I just feel I've wasted the last 8 years of my life attempting to help build a club for a bunch of people who frankly don't deserve it.
I won't bother posting much on here anymore which will please a fair few. Losing Vastman's regular input may not be much of a loss even I can see that. However losing the active support of the real person though hardly critical is surely something the club can't yet afford and I know I'm far from the only one to pack it up and call it a day. So maybe I do feel for Korki, I've experienced very similar to what you suggest he is feeling though in my case it didn't cost nothing.
I wish Andrew Glover all the best and he will need it!
So au revoir and all that, it used to be a pleasure.
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