Im afraid Kear got it all wrong yesterday. Millard on the bench at the expense of a mariano/howarth, Lee at lock, Vievers on the wing, Spiers on the bench we all mistakes. We ain't got a great squad but he managed to use what we have extremeley poorly.

Think Millard was on bench cos of move to Catalans,dont want him injured then stuck with him.If he was in team then he should have been centre with veivers fb,blaymire dropped,murphy on wing and mariano or howarth on bench.

So should everyone be fit, what would be your ideal team be.

Morrison should have been at lock with Mariano 2nd row. Lee as interchange hooker off the bench. He was knackared when he took over from Rinaldi and we lost our spark. Vievers looked like a fish out of water on the wing, he should be at fullback. Blaymire doesn't offer enough going forward. Ideally Gledhill would be fit to be the fourth prop but until he is or we strengthern then Hendo should do the job. Spiers doesn't look ready yet. Millard either starts or doesn't play. Howarth should have been on the bench.

Personaly thought Hyde was non-existent.

Agreed but he isnt good enough to play at half back in SL, so that was kears fault.

Lee could have gone into the halves or Howarth could have played stand off.

There does seem to be a trend in having lots of small men in the 17 which baffles me.

We used to have Latu, Obst, Drew, Brough, Rooney

Now we have, Obst, Lee, Rinaldi, Hyde, with Smith & Jeffries to come in at some stage.

IF we go down we could do worse than Glenn Morrison. IF we stay up is Brian Noble employed yet? I do like John Kear but I think he has got stale & we need a new broom. Would Nobby be up for saving yet another club?

If we go down lets get jd back as coach to inject some passion and pride.

If we got nobby we wouldnt have to pay his wages cos rl would do it,so more money for players.

JD & MORRO? The new dream team!

And, outside of passion and pride, where are we looking for his skills in coaching a defence etc. as he certainly wasn't able to practice it on the pitch last year.

Think that is a bit harsh after the good years of service and hard graft that he gave to base it on his last year with us,everybody knows in 99% of games he gave everything.Also where is jk's teaching of defence?

I'm not basing not making him head coach based just on his last year playing, I'm basing it on the fact he has no track record as a coach! The problem this club has had for years is rating 'years of service' and 'hard graft' above ability to do a job.

Yes, whoever recruits the next coach at trinity, they have to look at the style of play he's got his team currently playing and the defensive structures he uses etc. It is essential they get a modern 'thinking' RL coach.

If Jeffries was not injured then Kears master plan of playing Hyde instead of him backfired big time.

No it's not harsh. You can't possibly think JD is ready to coach a SL or even a NL1 team for that matter. Where is his experience, his learning curve etc etc, come on. As for passion, I have passion for the club but you wouldn't want me coaching would you?

You'd have been better than Tony Smith was! (And I don't blame Smith, I blame those who appointed him on a knee-jerk. Still, hope he enjoys the flats he got.)

I concur - the suggestion of employing an unqualified, inexperienced head coach is part and parcel of what got WTW into the mess it's currently in; we need competent, qualified, experienced personnel in key roles, not 'great servants of the club', people who are 'rugby through and through' or respected former players stuffed into a suit.

Absolute crazy talk. The fact that JD walked straight into a coaching job is another reason why the game is in the state that it is. He has no coaching experience whatsoever. Going with your theory I propose Sonny Whakarau as our next head coach as I liked him and he never took a backward step on the field.

Been saying since Easter last year he needs to go, far too many baffling decisions particularly with the team selections. Fair enough we have limited resources at the moment, but we just don't seem to make the best of the bad hand we have. We need to look elsewhere for new a new coach and get the foundations in place for a 3 year (min) slog in the Championship. Lets look at the likes of Powell, Millward, Jowett etc need to be looked at very closely to see if they can be attracted.

Sell the possibility of newmarket and SL in 3 years time, make it clear to them they can build the team they want as they will be starting from scratch next year, give them assurances that they will be given time to get things in place hopefully ready for another crack at SL when the time comes.

All the talk of JD, Morrision, Marchy's etc being touted as possible coaches is just crazy to me.

Ive heard this a few times but know nothing about it. Whats the crack? Was he offered flats instead of payment? How many? Teds villas I suppose

A thread that just blows me away. There is so much going at the club behing the scenes that ANY coach is going to struggle. How can you coach a club when you have an administrator in looking to flog your players, how do we know Millard was not close to signing for another club? Given what has happened how do we know that some of the players aren't downing tools and lookig to leave ASAP? 99.9% of the people on this board do not know what is happening in the dressing room so don't assume you do and that everything is rosy.

Surely even the most blind JK haters ont his board must cut him a little slack at the moment....or do you think that was the squad he wanted to start the season with - no props and no half backs???? really get a grip...and yes i was at Cardiff and did have to watch a diabolical game...

You miss the obvious point. He chose to spend the budget he had on utility players and left us short of props - that is Kears fault.

He picked a team that had players playing out of their recognised positions and wasted a spot on the bench with Millard. Again his fault.

Oh and he wanted out last season (and whether you blame him for that or not, the only reason he is still here is cos Ted got greedy)

If we have any luck, someone will come in for an offer for Kear and the administrator will sell him.

If Millard was close to signing for another club why not play Mariano etc on the bench to give us much needed weight up front? Obst was presumably closer than Millard to signing for another club but he played. What's his excuse for having wierd bench selections for the last 12 months then?

People have been saying for months we where short but what did we chose to sign? An ageing, injury prone utility man who is now injured and another utlility half back who can't get back into the country..... At some point Kear has to be accountable for his signings, and yes I appreciate there are lots of problems behind the scenes which makes it all the more frustrating that the onfield problems are made worse and the mountain we have to climb is steeper becuase of things like this.