I don't like finding myself in a position of defending another team's player over one of ours, but I am sticking up for Dobson, not putting Broughy down.

As KR finished above us, your argument doesn't seem the strongest. Dobson is a very good player, and consistent with it, and unlikely to cost a game (or be suspended for one) due to a brainstorm. I would have Dobson in a Wakey shirt in a heartbeat. Also, surely a prop can be measured in stats, as that is the job of a prop, yards and tackles.

Also, looking at that dream team, if that is a measure of form, looks like a Leeds-v-Hull KR final.

Back to school I'm afraid. Brough misses one tackle for every 6.22 he completes, for Dobson it is one every 4.53.

Other than that I agree, he is a quality player and I don't think there is masses to choose between them on balance. I'd personally take Brough though as I think the Lord of the Rings look with dodgy stripe beats the premature balding fish mouth one.

Agree and it is crucial to take stats in context but Dobson has been superb for Hull KR all year, Brough has blown hot and cold.

I do rate Brough highly but Dobson in my opinion is in there on merrit as being the stand out 7 this year by some distance.

Think it is a pretty accurate side in my opinion although think Menzies and Locky have been slightly hard done to, especially Locky who has been superb is a team that has really struggled this year at times.

I got the calculator out too, but I have to confess that I wasn't sure if the bigger number was better or worse.

And he's got a worse error rate. Hey, I'm coming round to his way of thinking!

In fairness the last solicitor's bill I paid showed an even greater disregard for maths as far as I was concerned.

As for the SL stats on that site, I'm not so sure about them, I'm certain Brough has kicked 40-20s this season.

I think they make them up half of the time, some of the stats for Fielden have been a joke claiming he made tons of yards forwards in a game more than Coley when infact he has been handed his rear and put on it after every driuve he has taken in some games.

maybe they are being kind and counting the ones he gets driven backwards.

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Brough hot and cold dobson not so? u seen all our and kr's games?

Btw not aimed at you inparticular.

Small little old wakefield - 5TH
Big time cocky charlies Wigan - 6TH

would agree with the dream team though i
would have had obst in instead of moore

Hardly big time cocky charlies every Wigan fan to a man knows we have been poor this year often abysmal, Locky has been a stand out performer though top class this year.

I have seen many KR games this year and also many Trinity games in my opinion Dobson has been the driving force behind what has been a very good season for KR.

Brough has been very good too but has had a quiet spell mid season.

You do not have to be a good team to have 1 or 2 good players in it. Look at Barrett for example in his first season at Wigan he was regarded as the form standoff in the World but he was still part of a very poor Wigan side.

Locky has been superb in a team that has struggled and even silenced many of his harshest critics, namely the Wigan fans. Sinfield is playing in a dominant team and has not performed to his standards in my opinion, and when they have been put under pressure he goes missing.

If the press are so keen to praise Sinfield it would be interesting to see how he went playing behind a powder puff Props like Locky does 90% of the time.

No real surprises in there for me.

It feels strange though with us having our best ever season and not really having a standout candidate. Blaymire and Snitch have arguably been our two most consistent players over the full season but Brett Hodgson was absolutely nailed on for the fullback slot, and not sure Snitch would have stood out as much to outsiders as he would have to fans who watch him week in week out.

If the positions were over the last couple of months Sam Obst would have absolutely walked it IMO, but Scott Moore has had a very good season overall.

On a sidenote I'd love to see JD be recognised for the way he's led his team to our greatest finishing position and points tally in a season with the added burden of wearing the number 8 shirt. There would be no more deserving player and man for the man of steel award this year IMO.

I think it is testamant to the team ethic and coaching that Wakefield can get into there best position ever in SL and not have a member in the Dream Team, generally all have performed very well, and while they may not have been the best in there respective positions the team has done so well.

Not too worried,or surprised, about no Wakey players in there.Snitch has been our most consistent performer over the season, but so many different players have been lauded weekly when it comes to MOM.

For me it highlights the fact we are a "team" and not so dependant on the one man.

What?!?!?! No Obst, no JD, no Leo-Latu?







Really tough luck, at least one of those three deserved to be in the dream team.

obst didn't have the best first half of season to be fair for various reasons

I thought Brough had been better than Dobson but looking at the stats probably Dobson deserves to be in. Id still prefer to have Danny in our team though

not enough game time, not enough playing at his best

Dobson didn't play well on Saturday, but he didn't get in the Dream Team by accident, he has been excellent in 90% of matches.

Ok, so because KR finished one place above the Wildcats, that makes Dobson a better player than Brough?!

Furthermore, see Bloomers point re: tackle statistics - I'm still waiting for an apology for your previous sardonic comment.

Dobson is an excellent player, no shadow of a doubt and is worthy of being a contender or even a spot in the dream team. What I will say is that I rate Brough more highly and he is defensively better, as the stats (contrary to your previous post) quantify.

Do agree with the stats point - whoever works at Opta need to check their maths as Brough has posted at least 1 40:20 this season and some of the other figures do look rather circumspect.

I think the Fielden yards figure must include those where he's going backwards!!

class!

Pleasing things to me are that their are 8 English players in the 13, and Saints have only got 1 more player in than Wakefield, no wonder they only finished 2nd.

think keith senior will have this on ebay soon

I agree and I would be astounded if wakey never picked up the team of the year award at the MOS awards.

On the Dobson / Brough debate, although I think Broughy is a good player I just think Dobbo is more consistant. When he has a quiet game he is just that quiet, whereas when Brough has a bad one he seems to really stand out and then lose the plot and usually the game with it.

I prefer Brough to Dobson but its close. Both cracking players though.