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| The thing is PB, now that the club have gone into legal mode, there will probably be no denial, and if MC is on holiday, the timing is well constructed by WMDC to suck up maximum publicity and gain the media advantage.
Seems one step too far for me and can only hope we stay strong for retaliation.
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| Dealing with your points, Manuel
"MC was never interested in Belle Vue and has every intention of turning everything down as soon as it is offered, allegedly" - I don't accept that. Having preferred options is different to only considering one option. If the deal as first tabled came to fruition, I'm sure he'd take it.
"CB is trying to get out and sell his shares, allegedly" - there is no obligation to go down with a sinking ship. The depressing thing, if true, is that it's a sign the ship is sinking
""They" are trying to sell their franchise, allegedly" - that would be me done. I don't blame them from a financial point of view, but I support Wakefield, not a relocated company.
"This has the smell of a fat turd from Woolley all over it"- it certainly stinks.
"Is it such a simple game being played as to p~ss us off so much that we throw the towel in" - it's succeeeded
"I suspect their majority will be down at the election let us hope so" - doubt it
I'm afraid I am guilty of optimism, as I assume that other people deal with things in the way I'd like to deal with things. The press release is a clear blame game but I think it spells the end. Perhaps my optimism meter has swung too far into the red, but it almost feels better to be a Salford fan right now.
Who'd buy a season ticket now?
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| Slugger we must all buy a season ticket now to show support to MC. More important that ever. Imagine if you were MC, note how frustrated we feel and x by ten. The last thing MC needs is fans turning their backs on the club.
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| Although risking a hots of abuse, what are MC and CB expecting from a new build / massively improved BV ?
Are they expecting that Trinity should be able to play there for "free", paying little rent and if so, in terms of the deal, how does this stack up with any other SL clubs ?
Surely a shiny new (or re-vamped) ground would heavily reduce and costs of up keep and attract more fans through the turnstiles, which "could" pay for any "rental" costs ?
I know these deals are complicated but, could Sandal or IA tell us what "we" are expecting, against WMDC's new position of Trinity paying a commercial rent.
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| I don't believe Walker wants the club to disappear. I just think he wants to make money from whatever scheme materialises.
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| "The Trust" never seem to get involved publicly in these disputes. How come? Surely it's the middle man?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Absolutely fuming like most. You can see how politics work now.
The lying toe rag at the top sets the agenda, tell the minions what is going on (his version) this filters out and is passed via their so called friends (me in this case) to create Chinese whispers.
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MC was never interested in Belle Vue and has every intention of turning everything down as soon as it is offered, allegedly
CB is trying to get out and sell his shares, allegedly
"They" are trying to sell their franchise, allegedly.
There were a few other small not as interesting bits and a few well known names mentioned and I would not trust them an inch.
This has the smell of a fat turd from Woolley all over it.
Is it such a simple game being played as to p~ss us off so much that we throw the towel in.
I suspect their majority will be down at the election let us hope so.
Can we crowd fund for legal fees. Dig in lads, whilst you must be totally fed up, we are behind you.
UP THE TRIN'"
Please let me know the name of your friend as there is quite a libellous statement made there.
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| Get off the forum and enjoy your holiday
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| Don’t worry, I am
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I don't believe Walker wants the club to disappear. I just think he wants to make money from whatever scheme materialises.'"
Agreed, i think he would stand to make just as much money with the club being there as it not being so i doubt he wants it dead. He probably just wants a piece of the pie, be that monetary, controlling or a bit of both.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Please let me know the name of your friend as there is quite a libellous statement made there.'"
There’s a few on this thread against various people involved, i wouldn’t let it worry you. Nobody believes anything anybody says anymore anyway.
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| Favourite quote from Wallhead:
“It is incredible that the club’s owners expect a stadium to be delivered at no cost to them and without having to pay a normal rent. No one could deliver a community stadium without a contribution from the main tenant and public money cannot be used to finance a project where the ultimate proceeds sit within a private company.”
I can't imagine anyone getting a deal like this... oh, hang on... isn't there another scheme in WMDC that the council have called a "community" stadium?
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| When the dust settles on this it would make a fantastic television mini series... daddy cool how about selling the rights to a reality TV company to follow the next few months... would be riveting viewing!
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| Riveting viewing ( I don't think so )
It would be far too complicated and would become a total switch off.
An official statements required asap .
The club should also write a letter to the Wakefield Express informing the Wakefield public just what's gone on recently and historically going back years.
A full page advertisement funded by donations.
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| Sorry Daddycool. Not meant to cause distress, a bit of red mist. Glad to talk if I knew how. Didn't believe a word of it and still don't.
Bunch of weasels, I have another conversation due and will see what other bile is being spun but will not post.
Relax and have a cocktail.
p.s. S.M., I have bought my 2 East stand tickets, platinum as well. It will take more than tools like Box and RMW to stop me.
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| There’s a lot being thrown around. Keep calm and relax. Full statement after taking legal advice. Bottom line. Somebody made a lot of money after promising to fund and build a community stadium. New person stands to make a lot of money after promising to build and fund a community stadium. Recurring theme???
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| Quote ="Daddycool"There’s a lot being thrown around. Keep calm and relax. Full statement after taking legal advice. Bottom line. Somebody made a lot of money after promising to fund and build a community stadium. New person stands to make a lot of money after promising to build and fund a community stadium. Recurring theme???'"
As suspected. I thought the timing was rather odd, the council going to the press just as you were going on holiday.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Agreed, i think he would stand to make just as much money with the club being there as it not being so i doubt he wants it dead. He probably just wants a piece of the pie, be that monetary, controlling or a bit of both.'"
Having read the post of IA on the press release and a couple of phone calls I am certain Walker is actively involved. Why he needs this at his age and alleged financial wealth we can only speculate right now. My best shot at the moment is this.
Walker realises whoever controls the stadium controls the club playing there. By being in full control as the chairmen of the shadow trust waiting to take over, he will eventually have that power. This will give him a nice financial pay back plus the kudos, these are his life blood. He also believes once he has established himself then removing MC and CB will not be that difficult. I am also convinced he has friends and contacts in place who are more than willing to run the club.
Box I still believe wants the club to die, however he knows Walkers plan and sees it as the next best thing.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo""The Trust" never seem to get involved publicly in these disputes. How come? Surely it's the middle man?'"
We don't need to say anything at this stage. We work very closely with the Club and are together on this and will be taking legal advice together.
Pretty sure there will be something from the Club and Trust when we have the advice.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"There’s a lot being thrown around. Keep calm and relax. Full statement after taking legal advice. Bottom line. Somebody made a lot of money after promising to fund and build a community stadium. New person stands to make a lot of money after promising to build and fund a community stadium. Recurring theme???'"
I still believe that has to be some middle ground somewhere. There has to be otherwise the club is done for.
One question, does this make any difference to the deal to play at Belle Vue next season? Could we still serve notice and go elsewhere?
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Favourite quote from Wallhead:
“It is incredible that the club’s owners expect a stadium to be delivered at no cost to them and without having to pay a normal rent. No one could deliver a community stadium without a contribution from the main tenant and public money cannot be used to finance a project where the ultimate proceeds sit within a private company.”
I can't imagine anyone getting a deal like this... oh, hang on... isn't there another scheme in WMDC that the council have called a "community" stadium?'"
Coco, as far as I understand the Cas ground, it's private investors funding it, no public money involved, and Cas haven't had to inject any money into the build.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Having read the post of IA on the press release and a couple of phone calls I am certain Walker is actively involved. Why he needs this at his age and alleged financial wealth we can only speculate right now. My best shot at the moment is this.
Walker realises whoever controls the stadium controls the club playing there. By being in full control as the chairmen of the shadow trust waiting to take over, he will eventually have that power. This will give him a nice financial pay back plus the kudos, these are his life blood. He also believes once he has established himself then removing MC and CB will not be that difficult. I am also convinced he has friends and contacts in place who are more than willing to run the club.
Box I still believe wants the club to die, however he knows Walkers plan and sees it as the next best thing.'"
The poster called "Harrogate?"
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| Quote ="JINJER"Coco, as far as I understand the Cas ground, it's private investors funding it, no public money involved, and Cas haven't had to inject any money into the build.'"
I believe Cas paid a six-figure sum for all the stadium design and planning permission for their stadium, whilst the council funded the Newmarket scheme.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Coco, as far as I understand the Cas ground, it's private investors funding it, no public money involved, and Cas haven't had to inject any money into the build.'"
I was referring to the first part really, as the second part makes no sense. I'm still of the understanding that it would be a community stadium owned/run by a charitable trust under similar conditions to the proposed Newmarket development. Also, I thought the council were facilitating a loan rather than using any taxpayers' money and the proposed £2M was investment in ancillary community sports facilities.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"I believe Cas paid a six-figure sum for all the stadium design and planning permission for their stadium, whilst the council funded the Newmarket scheme.'"
Where have you seen that ? Is it being confused with the first Glasshoughton stadium on the Stadium Business Park land by the station.
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