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| Are they continuing all week? I might go down on Friday if so.
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| Does the the Yorkcourt representive or whoever get to question LCC and Barton Willmore or not?
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Does the the Yorkcourt representive or whoever get to question LCC and Barton Willmore or not?'"
Yes , infact it seems that anyone can stand up and question anyone as happened this afternoon
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"They haven't got much to go on and therefore scraps is all the LCC barister has to work with... but he does seem to be building a house of cards, as I said. I am unsure of how comfortable the Methley Residents Association and the Newmarket Lane residents are now feeling with this persistent line of questioning about Cas & GH by LCC. Not sure who is pushing the argument and why they are not changing tack! I think Barton Willmore will continue the theme right to the end. They might see this as the only real viable counter argument to the stadium element of the proposals... this is all they have, so might as well stick with it approach!
Still sounds like a good day again today... but equally, when you are in driving the seat, they always are!'"
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| Quote ="Theboyem"He has issued his statement. Says nothing of any worth as usual.
[urlhttp://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1931[/url'"
Repeats again "no need to build Newmarket, Trinity can play at our place"
We are going to hear things we don't like. It's the nature of the beast. I wonder what assistance RW has given to LCC, as it sounds like they are following the same route: no need to build NM as we have GH.
The inspector is entitled to be critical and allow a grilling of the pro-development lobby, as the starting point for him will be: "justify why you should be allowed to build on land that has been designated for staying undeveloped".
The frustrating thing will be if the decision comes down to that there is no need because you can share elsewhere, and then RW's little input will have allowed us both to be dragged down together.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The frustrating thing will be if the decision comes down to that there is no need because you can share elsewhere, and then RW's little input will have allowed us both to be dragged down together.'"
Richard Wright knows if we get this he is finished. If he pulls us down then he wins. He realises we will both have crappy grounds and both fail to reach required standards but he will still have his plot of land at GH with planning and that will be enough to give him the edge at the next franchise round.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"What annoys me about you Alf is you have a brain cell, but clearly choose not to engage it.
You know full well what an emotive topic this is an choose to have a laugh with it.
Others I won't name speak without knowledge of the case or legislation, you on the other hand have a grasp of both, yet choose to bend both to match what little (& shrinking) case you have. Guess that comes from the =#FFBF80colour of shirt you wear.Jokes obviously... [size=50cough[/size'"
I thank you Sandal!
"Amber is referred to as "northern gold". "
"Wear amber to attract warm, loyal, and generous people into your life; or carry amber on your person to lend logic or wit to a difficult situation."
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| Quote ="bigalf"I thank you Sandal!
"Amber is referred to as "northern gold". "
"Wear amber to attract warm, loyal, and generous people into your life; or carry amber on your person to lend logic or wit to a difficult situation."'"
or you can look at it as
the word yellow which can be used as an adjective meaning cowardly.
what ever
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| Quote ="snowie"or you can look at it as
the word yellow which can be used as an adjective meaning cowardly.
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| Quote ="bigalf"I thank you Sandal!
"Amber is referred to as "northern gold". "
"Wear amber to attract warm, loyal, and generous people into your life; or carry amber on your person to lend logic or wit to a difficult situation."'"
Amber similar to ginger or is that to do with the cas small gene pool
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Amber similar to ginger or is that to do with the cas small gene pool'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"Are they continuing all week? I might go down on Friday if so.'"
Yes, they sit everyday except Monday's.
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John Francis - Yorkcourt's Planning expert witness.
He is the only witness scheduled in for Friday, but they have him down for 3 hours speaking & 2 hours cross examination.
So, the answer is... go in the morning for the start at 10am, if you go in the afternoon they might have gone home for the weekend!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Does the the Yorkcourt representive or whoever get to question LCC and Barton Willmore or not?'"
Yes, Yorkcourt's barrister Andrew gets to cross examine Leeds City Council's representatives. Barton Willmore are not appearing in a statutory role, they are just appearing on behalf of an objector. This means that Yorkcourt (Andrew) get to ask them 'questions' as opposed to a cross examination, however, given that they are planning consultants I expect that the inspector will allow him quite a bit of leeway and this will appear more like a cross examination I expect.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Yes , infact it seems that anyone can stand up and question anyone as happened this afternoon
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This is only true of witnesses called directly by statutory parties. So in this case witnesses called by Yorkcourt, WMDC & LCC.
When it comes to us mere mortals, or the public, as I like to call us, then in our case only LCC and the inspector can ask us questions, it will not be opened up to the house. In the case of anyone objecting, then Yorkcourt, WMDC & the inspector can ask them questions.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"given that they are planning consultants I expect that the inspector will allow him quite a bit of leeway and this will appear more like a cross examination I expect.'"
During which I hope he tears them a new one, with liberal reference to the pro-development stance they wax lyrical about on their website.
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| Quote ="bren2k"During which I hope he tears them a new one, with liberal reference to the pro-development stance they wax lyrical about on their website.'"
Again, don't be too hard on Barton Willmore per say, they are just doing the job they are being paid to do by an objector. Even murderers get a barrister... if you get my point!
That said, I am fairly certain that as Andrew is 'questioning' them, and indeed they are expert hired guns, that he will not go easy on them... and I expect the inspector will let him!
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| Quote ="bigalf"I thank you Sandal!
"Amber is referred to as "northern gold". "
"Wear amber to attract warm, loyal, and generous people into your life; or carry amber on your person to lend logic or wit to a difficult situation."'"
Amber traffic lights mean "not ready"
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yes, they sit everyday except Monday's.
On the bill the Friday is
John Francis - Yorkcourt's Planning expert witness.
He is the only witness scheduled in for Friday, but they have him down for 3 hours speaking & 2 hours cross examination.
So, the answer is... go in the morning for the start at 10am, if you go in the afternoon they might have gone home for the weekend!'"
Thanks IA. I'll be there at 10.00 if I can. I'd like to see what is going on.
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| After hearing today's news on LCC can they really afford to be in a costly wrangle with us over this. I know they have duty to their public but surely in economic time like this and today's announcement They ought to do the right thing financially and prioritise other spending areas before this.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"And in further irony LCC leader Keith Wakefield was on Look North earlier moaning how they have to find a further £50 million of cuts next year and how its going to cause more job losses. He then goes on to say that despite government promises the private sector are not picking up the job losses that are being created in the public sector. And yet he is objecting to 2000 being created on his doorstep. Bit hypocritical don't you think?'"
And even more ironically, they have to make more cuts but he is still willing to spend Leeds Councils money fighting something that quite frankly should be none of his damn business.
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| Either that or todays announcement is a big shock and he may have rethink on opposing to save money/jobs
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Amber traffic lights mean "not ready"'"
Seems not to mean that where I live, I must mean " put your foot down" :/
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| A real below the belt stunt by the Cas chairman; he is like another Ted Richardson but just in the black and yellow corner. Surely the Leeds barristers defense cannot hold up a argument about a invisible ground in glasshoughton this should just be dissmissed how can we talk about a ground that isn't even there? Quite baffling and it just shows the lack of argument the defense has ; its pathetic.
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| How Ironic KEith Wakefield was on look north yesterday talking about job cuts!
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